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Old 04-20-2023, 10:01 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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If you were building up a newly formed nation you wouldn't include a second amendment, we live in the past.
So, tell me why Americans had guns before the 2nd Amendment if it is so important? By what right did they possess guns?

 
Old 04-20-2023, 10:13 PM
 
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For Americans, there's danger lurking at every turn, so I guess you better be prepared to defend yourself. Me or Them? Better have my gun (or arsenal of them).

The RIGHT to shoot and kill is paramount and ridiculous. That's how you get the WRONG DOORBELL. That's how you get the WRONG DRIVEWAY. That's how you get the WRONG CAR. That's how your kid's ball rolled into the WRONG YARD.

Americans can't handle firearms safely.
As per most shootings...it's, the WRONG TURF...it's the WRONG DESIRE TO TAKE YOUR POSSESSIONS...it's the WRONG SPOT DURING A GANG INITIATION OR HIT....it's the WRONG SPOT WHILE THUGS GET OFF POPPING CAPS IN OTHERS.
And because there are so many guns....they will have no problem getting one (most likely a handgun that's stolen) at any time.
And if they didn't have guns...there would be almost as many killings...just by stabbing, beatings, mowed down, pushed in front of a car or train, etc.

Most of the weapons killing in this world is by bombs from a missle, plane, or drone...upon people we have arbitrarily deemed "the enemy". We give people commendations for that...and call them "heros".
 
Old 04-20-2023, 10:21 PM
 
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This thread is so dumb, it’s funny.
 
Old 04-20-2023, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
Wake me up when 20,000 people are killed by scissors.


If you were building up a newly formed nation you wouldn't include a second amendment, we live in the past.
People kill. Not scissors, knives, fists nor GUNS.
 
Old 04-20-2023, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Cali
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Originally Posted by Universe93B View Post
For Americans, there's danger lurking at every turn, so I guess you better be prepared to defend yourself. Me or Them? Better have my gun (or arsenal of them).

The RIGHT to shoot and kill is paramount and ridiculous. That's how you get the WRONG DOORBELL. That's how you get the WRONG DRIVEWAY. That's how you get the WRONG CAR. That's how your kid's ball rolled into the WRONG YARD.

Americans can't handle firearms safely.
Guns have been in this country before United States became the United States. The right to bear arms is as American as baseball or Pamela Anderson.

Did Americans just started owning guns in the last 10 years or something?
 
Old 04-21-2023, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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And lets look at that number, and i'm glad you excluded suicides.

The common denominator of the majority of those shootings is a certain age group, with prior criminal histories. More legislation isn't going to change those.

The common denominator for the school shootings is, again, a certain age group, and either prior mental issues, or are being treated for mental issues.

And then, a large number of shootings can be attributed to light on crime DA's, and judges. The MSU shooter is an example of that.
The gross numbers of gun homicide are of course a problem, but the mass shootings are particularly destructive to society and a more recent occurrence. Shooting in schools, churches, concerts, supermarkets, sweet 16 parties really have an impact on the nation. Gang violence in cities although a problem have always occurred.

We are in new territory with these mass shootings, mostly young white males with mental health issues. It has little to do with sentencing procedures although there are cases where that is true. It is mostly easy access to guns and mental health issues.

Suicides are also another reason for more strict gun control laws, of course there are other ways. But the recidivism rate is 1 in 25 after the first attempt so those 25,000 suicides are also a problem.
 
Old 04-21-2023, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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HA! Maybe the people on the left wouldn't.

The people on the right would understand that having the government as the only entity with guns is LUNACY.

Also, having 100 million red blooded men that know how to use firearms is a pretty nice deterrent from an invasion, even today.

What free person would actually demand that their rulers disarm them? That's just insane. Stop acting like a peasant or a subject.

You're a free person because of guns and because of the quality of our founding documents. If James Madison were alive today he'd probably slap you across the face and take away your man card.

Good grief.
We did not have a standing army in 1791, today we spend $1B a year on the DOD not including national guard, police and you're worried about an invasion, come on. Less than 1% are willing to join the military and you think that personal weapons in the hands of residents would repel an invasion. The numbers indicate otherwise.

I wonder how other countries survive without 400 million guns.
 
Old 04-21-2023, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Originally Posted by Universe93B View Post
For Americans, there's danger lurking at every turn, so I guess you better be prepared to defend yourself. Me or Them? Better have my gun (or arsenal of them).

The RIGHT to shoot and kill is paramount and ridiculous. That's how you get the WRONG DOORBELL. That's how you get the WRONG DRIVEWAY. That's how you get the WRONG CAR. That's how your kid's ball rolled into the WRONG YARD.

Americans can't handle firearms safely.





Generalize and stereotype with an agenda much?
 
Old 04-21-2023, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Americans can't handle firearms safely.
This is basically correct. We need to treat America like a prison. We can't trust the inmates with weapons. I also agree with the other posters, need to get rid of knives.

In the UK they have strict knife laws, and they can stop and search people on the streets. We need to do the same in the United States, if not going much further.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNMi_F3p33c
 
Old 04-21-2023, 06:14 AM
 
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It reminds me of the early covid days and the mask wearing Karens screeching about wearing them. Most of the US is entirely safe. If you don't live in a ghetto? If you do, try to move.
That's the irony of the anti-gun crowd. The liberals who want to take away our guns are the very same idiots whose policies have created anarchy in our cities. Decades of hatemongering, blame projection, and a concerted effort to normalize a victim hood mentality, along with recent vilification of law enforcement and seeding DA's offices with moronic progs, has created the perfect environment for criminals. And the reaction from the idiot brigade (Dems/Progs/Libs) is to disarm law abiding citizens. They're a bunch of raving lunatics is the only thing I can come up with that explains why Dem voters so stunningly stupid.
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