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Old 02-03-2024, 07:57 PM
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Old 02-04-2024, 11:05 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Hearings begin in the coming days. Per AP here are the court's options.

Which one do you think they will go with and why?

a. It could uphold the Colorado ruling and say Trump is no longer qualified to be president.

b. The court could say Trump is qualified to be president. That would end all Section 3 challenges, including in Maine.

c. It could dodge by overruling Colorado on a technicality about the procedures used to get the case there and set itself up for another case in the fall.

d. It could say Congress makes the final decision.

My circle of friends who will vote choose c. or remotely d.

If c. and another case begins in the fall and Trump is elected president then what happens?
They will rule b. Trump is qualified to be president because any and all state officials' and state courts' "findings" that Trump is ineligible according to the 14th Amendment have NOT met the 14th Amendment's Section 5 mandate.

14th Amendment Section 5

The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
 
Old 02-04-2024, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Hillsboro Beach
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A combination of B and C
 
Old 02-04-2024, 11:09 AM
 
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He wasn’t impeached, he wasn’t acquitted.
Yes, he was acquitted by Congress:

Senate votes to acquit Trump for role in Capitol attack - PBS
 
Old 02-04-2024, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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This is all legal nonsense by lawyers...

Time for a lawyer joke. What do you call 100 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?
How about a good start.

The "law" is whatever the people who decide, say it is. A conservative Supreme Court likely will rule that Trump is eligible to be president. If you read what the Constitution says, this has to be the ruling, and it should be 9-0.

However there are lefty judges on the Supreme Court who might see things differently, and Trump might get only a 6-3 ruling in his favor.

Trump hasn't been convicted of squat, which is really the only thing that matters in this case.
It's not what lefty judges feel like doing, it's what the law currently is.
 
Old 02-04-2024, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Beacon Falls
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He wasn’t impeached, he wasn’t acquitted.
No - he was impeached, and he was acquitted.
 
Old 02-04-2024, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Beacon Falls
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Originally Posted by howard555 View Post
Hearings begin in the coming days. Per AP here are the court's options.

Which one do you think they will go with and why?

a. It could uphold the Colorado ruling and say Trump is no longer qualified to be president.

b. The court could say Trump is qualified to be president. That would end all Section 3 challenges, including in Maine.

c. It could dodge by overruling Colorado on a technicality about the procedures used to get the case there and set itself up for another case in the fall.

d. It could say Congress makes the final decision.

My circle of friends who will vote choose c. or remotely d.

If c. and another case begins in the fall and Trump is elected president then what happens?
You forgot:

e. SCOTUS punts and leaves the decision to the states.
 
Old 02-04-2024, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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You forgot:

e. SCOTUS punts and leaves the decision to the states.
That will never happen. See, Bush v Gore, 2000.
This case is huge, the SC will take it.

Personally I think b is the most likely, followed by c. d is very unlikely, but possible, and a has no chance of being the ruling as Trump isn't convicted of anything at this time.
 
Old 02-04-2024, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Beacon Falls
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That will never happen. See, Bush v Gore, 2000.
I am aware of Bush v Gore, but this is different. BvG was over a recount dispute, not invoking a Constitutional Amendment.


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This case is huge, the SC will take it..
The case IS huge, yes, and they have already taken it; but still may decide to kick it back to the states. I am certainly hoping they don't.
 
Old 02-04-2024, 12:14 PM
 
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The Democrats stupidest “stop Trump” attempt yet. Riddle me this: How is someone, who has been **ACQUITTED** of insurrection in a public trial for all to see, still guilty of the crime?

Democrat logic: a person acquitted of murder is still a murderer. That’s basically the argument they’re using against Trump. Good luck, your tears will taste yummy!
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