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Well I'm not a lawyer, I'm just a regular person who watched a video of a bunch of drunk teens and a drunk older man who escalated things for no reason.
Were the teens charged with anything? Because they should have been it.
No they are not.
One brother of mine is an attorney, so is one good friend of mine. I talked to both of them very briefly about this case, both of them said now that miu is convicted, these people can sue him in the civil court and win. Miu probanly has to pay for the damages he caused as well.
And the fact that the witnesses lied? Would that fall under court errors? The jury would have convicted based on false testimony.
Witness testimony is always up to the jury to decide if a witness is truthful, not truthful, or how much weight, if any, to give to any witness testimony. No, not a court error.
Unbiased source? Like the New York Times or CNN? Please go find even one.
Responsible media representatives? Who decides "responsible"?
Jurors should research? Because the internet search engines are fair, responsible and unbiased (if you pay).
People who know what they're talking about? Again, who decides?
Jurors should discuss the case before all the evidence is presented? Yeah- let's decide before we know the whole story.
Yeah, jurors are given very strict rules to follow, and they take an oath to follow the rules given to them by the judge. During voir dire, both sides question each potential juror to determine any biases, whether they can be impartial, if they'll follow the rules of the court and the judge, etc.
- Jurors are absolutely NOT to research anything at all about the case or anyone in the case. Nothing. Nada. Not even a little.
- Jurors are instructed NOT to read about the case, nor watch anything about the case, not allow anyone to talk to them about the case or even ask them what case they're on.
- Jurors are told every day, several times each day, NOT to discuss the case with anyone, not at home, not at work, not on social media, not with family, not with friends, not even among themselves. The judge reminds them of this, often.
- Jurors are instructed they are only to use the evidence presented to them *in court* and that's it!
- Jurors are not to deliberate or make up their minds about the case until they've heard ALL the evidence, and until they, as a jury, are instructed by the judge to begin their deliberations after they've been read the jury instructions.
There are pattern jury instructions that are read to them, in detail, at the end of the trial, before they are sent to their jury room to begin deliberations.
his attorney did a decent job now I know leftys are evil.
If the defense attorney did "a decent job" then the prosecution evidence was too strong to overcome.
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there is a chance she might get in trouble for defending herself. backwards logic if you ask me.
Not true. A woman being raped is far different than a man stabbing people to death for no reason(I do not believe Miu is innocent). A woman being raped will not be convicted in the same manner.
I hold mature adults to a higher standard than teens and young adults. Experience and maturity should have told that man to retreat at the first sign of the drunk kids yelling and taunting him. I think most of us would have done just that. Just like road rage, don't engage, certainly don't escalate, leave at the first opportunity. That is what grownups do.
Drunk kids with little life experience can't imagine the scenario that occurred, after Miu started stabbing they yelled that "this isn't real". That is the level of their understanding of the world. Mr. Miu had the advantage of life experience and the choice to walk away and took the wrong road.
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