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All agreed...but then on that note, what makes the military any more different than a population anywhere on earth? theft, drunk driving, robbery occurs absolutely everywhere, and I certainly don't see a commanding difference (or more of it) on US bases.
I'm sure japanupdate's got the bads, but it sounds like a college campus (not even as bad as one IMO)
But they’re committing these crimes in a country that doesn’t want us there.
The Japanese look at each crime as an addition to the last, not separate.
One of the recent rapes was a 12 year old.
We’re not discussing the US where there is a rape every 2 minutes: Rape Statistics
There are very few personal crimes committed in Japan; if I’m at the beach, there’s a chance that my car will be broken into and my money taken but I can walk down a street anywhere in Japan at any time of day and be safe.
I'm sure we have in Viet Nam and Iraq, in both cases our soldiers were tortured and killed. War is hell and our military is coming home with problems due to what they have seen and had to do. I thank them every day for putting their lives on the line for us.
US Soldiers are the occupying force. US forces attacked a sovereign nation.
People are fighting against occupation.
How is rape and murder furthering the US cause to democratize a culture that doesn’t want it?
Violent crime seems a strange way to win the “hearts & minds” of the Iraqi citizenry.
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Originally Posted by Delta Planter
Life is tough. Wear a helmet. Do not criticize the military if you have not walked in their shoes. Miss Gorgeet.
I think I've seen the video, when I had a sound card. I've also read the text version. As others have written, there are crimes committed in every conflict, in every war. Life is tough. Wear a helmet. Miss Gorgeet.
I was in the military and work in a military community now. Does that work for you?
If you haven’t served in the military, your words are just as invalid as the ones you don’t want to hear from anyone else who has not served.
Since you’re making an issue of it, have you served? If not, your opinion is just as invalid.
I question the validity of your so called PROOF of rape with the pictures. Seeing as how CBS news itself doesnt have them opn its site. The only place that has these pictures is this site which in looking further doesnt seem to like alot of things American Government.
I have no idea why so many people deny the existence of rapists, murderers, and psychopaths in the military. It does not actually make a case for against the war itself, it just means there are some bad apples in the military. During World War Two, a number of US servicemen were tried, imprisoned, and in quite a few cases executed for a number of murders and rapes committed by US troops stationed in allied and occupied countries. I can hardly see how anyone can say it somehow makes World War Two a less legitimate war.
Your guess is as good as mine.
Denial runs really deep for some people/issues.
I didn't even get into the rapes by Americans against Americans in Iraq.
There's even an 800 number for those violations.
No one is denying it happens because it does, but I think some one should look into facts before posting pictures saying the US military did this. Today it's easy to say alot of things because people dont fact check, as I belive is the case with these so called pictures only one site has.
Chielgirl, in your link your link it states these pictures were released by CBS news, please show a link to CBS news that has them with these pictures.
I have no idea why so many people deny the existence of rapists, murderers, and psychopaths in the military. It does not actually make a case for against the war itself, it just means there are some bad apples in the military. During World War Two, a number of US servicemen were tried, imprisoned, and in quite a few cases executed for a number of murders and rapes committed by US troops stationed in allied and occupied countries. I can hardly see how anyone can say it somehow makes World War Two a less legitimate war.
the difference is certain posters like gorgeet seem to get pleasure at exposing a U.S soldier as doing something illegal because it gives them more justification to hate America and protest Iraq.
the difference is certain posters like gorgeet seem to get pleasure at exposing a U.S soldier as doing something illegal because it gives them more justification to hate America and protest Iraq.
Some find delight when the numbers are more horrific.
If 99% of US Soldiers participate in crime... that is good news and supports their argument. There is no need to get into Iraqi Civilian deaths and US fighting deaths, one is too many. But some seem to find pleasure in quoting larger numbers.
the difference is certain posters like gorgeet seem to get pleasure at exposing a U.S soldier as doing something illegal because it gives them more justification to hate America and protest Iraq.
I absolutely disagree with this statement.
If we don't acknowledge that we do the same thing, how or when or why would we ever stop.
Denial is not an effective tool in stopping crime and criminal acts.
The US attacked their country and is now the oppressor.
I absolutely disagree with this statement.
If we don't acknowledge that we do the same thing, how or when or why would we ever stop.
Denial is not an effective tool in stopping crime and criminal acts.
The US attacked their country and is now the oppressor.
Do you have that link to CBS news for the pictures you claim show US forces raping women?
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