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Old 05-18-2009, 12:54 PM
LML
 
Location: Wisconsin
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homeless people are either addicted to drugs, or have mental problems, and would not take help even if it was offered.
Talk about being out of touch with reality. There are homeless people now who two years ago were living in their own nice homes, earning decent pay, and living the American dream. They are not addicts. They do not have mental problems. They have FINANCIAL problems brought about by a bunch of greedy so-and-sos that have crashed the U.S. economy. Do you even have ANY idea of how many companies are gone or hanging on by a thread? Do you have ANY idea how many millions of jobs have been lost? Push yourself away from the computer, turn off Fox News, and take a walk out into the real world.
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Old 05-18-2009, 01:04 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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so people chose not to save money for a rainy day and bought a home they could not afford with an arm and that's not their fault how? the people who brought on the financial problems are the people who thought they were entitled to a new car, and a huge house. the CEO's didn't knock on anyone's door and force them to sign a contract. too many people out there have the misconception that when things are good, they are always going to be good. I believe in being frugal and never having to worry, so when there is a downturn, I am prepared.

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Talk about being out of touch with reality. There are homeless people now who two years ago were living in their own nice homes, earning decent pay, and living the American dream. They are not addicts. They do not have mental problems. They have FINANCIAL problems brought about by a bunch of greedy so-and-sos that have crashed the U.S. economy. Do you even have ANY idea of how many companies are gone or hanging on by a thread? Do you have ANY idea how many millions of jobs have been lost? Push yourself away from the computer, turn off Fox News, and take a walk out into the real world.
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Old 05-18-2009, 01:14 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Lightbulb why do so many people choose to be poor?

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I have always wondered this myself. we all know that poverty is a choice, so why do so many chose to live in it? with all the government grants, educational opportunities, and other government programs out there, why do so many choose to do so little? show me a poor person, and I will show you a reason. unless you are physically or mentally disabled, there is no excuse for being poor.

why do so many people choose to be poor?


Probably because of the popularity of poverty.
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Old 05-18-2009, 01:16 PM
 
Location: southern california
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i do not know anyone nor have i known anyone who chose to be poor.
what the did was go on top of a hill and yell to the top of their lungs i want _____________
& i will do anything to get it. the wrong entity heard them.
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Old 05-18-2009, 01:24 PM
 
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I chose to be poor, and it turned out fine. I've learned to live within a means that I could attain without any particular effort or sacrifice of values. I've lived a good, quality life with plenty of free time to pursue interests, and I have few regrets. I'm now retired with a modest, mid-range social security income and a little more I set aside by spending less than I earned.

As for other people, I would venture this guess. Our economy has gone so badly in the past couple of decades, that more and more people are simply sick and tired of dedicating their entire life to a ratrace that never even promises anything more than barely keeping their heads above water, with practically no safety net to bail them out of a bit of bad luck. For so many people, the only reason their life has not turned catastrophic is because the have not yet hit that accident or illness or shop closing that will throw them into a permanant debt that will never be resolved in their lifetime.

The simple reality is that this country can only say afloat with an army of low-income workers showing up every morning, and those low-income workers are always going to receive less than they deserve as a share of our huge national wealth that can find so much in its pockets to reward the billionaires. And those low-income workers have very little incentive to wish they were rich. They don't choose to be poor, they resign themselves to being poor because they have eyes and ears and are not stupid and can see what is going on around them.

It is a sad state of affairs, when for so many people, the only hope of the American dream is at the lottery counter.

And please don's insult our intelligence by saying "All they have to do is go to an Ivy League school and become a doctor". Because when they do, they will hire an $8-an-hour recpetionist who drives her kids to daycare in a '96 Dodge Neon, and will then still be part of the problem, not the solution.
I agree totally with most of what you said, however, I strongly disagree on one point. "It is a sad state of affairs, when for so many people, the only hope of the American dream is at the lottery counter." It is true that is what a lot of actually believe that. It is a vain hope for most. There is a far better chance of being on the receiving end of a bolt of lightning than on the receiving end of large lottery win. I have a sister-in-law who firmly believes she is going to win the lottery to solve her problems but it is highly unlikely.
A person would be much more likely to make money by walking into the nearest casino and throw the money they are spending on lottery tickets into a slot machime, bet the max and if they hit anything even a dollar more than they put in, walk out. Nobody can do that however so consequently their money is still gone the same as on the lottery.
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Old 05-18-2009, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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that's not being a real man, that's letting someone take advantage of you. unless she was taking care of kids or something,
No, I got things from her in return. She cooked my meals...washed my clothes...gave me sex...

Good times, good times...
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Old 05-18-2009, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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so people chose not to save money for a rainy day and bought a home they could not afford with an arm and that's not their fault how? the people who brought on the financial problems are the people who thought they were entitled to a new car, and a huge house. the CEO's didn't knock on anyone's door and force them to sign a contract. too many people out there have the misconception that when things are good, they are always going to be good. I believe in being frugal and never having to worry, so when there is a downturn, I am prepared.
Any kind of loan or credit card is spending money you haven't earned yet.
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Old 05-18-2009, 01:31 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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that's not a girlfriend, that's a hooker!

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No, I got things from her in return. She cooked my meals...washed my clothes...gave me sex...

Good times, good times...
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Old 05-18-2009, 01:34 PM
LML
 
Location: Wisconsin
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so people chose not to save money for a rainy day and bought a home they could not afford with an arm and that's not their fault how? the people who brought on the financial problems are the people who thought they were entitled to a new car, and a huge house. the CEO's didn't knock on anyone's door and force them to sign a contract. too many people out there have the misconception that when things are good, they are always going to be good. I believe in being frugal and never having to worry, so when there is a downturn, I am prepared.

As I said, whistling past the graveyard. Watch out for Karma...you know what they say.
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Old 05-18-2009, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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that's not a girlfriend, that's a hooker!
Hookers don't bake you birthday cakes.
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