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Regardless of how I'm registered, I vote for the person I like the best. I did not vote for George Bush, but his tax policies really helped me. Wow, thanks George. I'm sure he didn't do it on purpose All of the other issues don't really affect me. Abortion, Gay marriage etc. I don't really care. I believe in live and let live, but I'm not in support personally of things I consider immoral.
I am against socialized healthcare; we can't afford it anyway. I support Peace, but I made my voice heard already about the war and I don't live in Iraq. While I like Arab and Persian culture, food and music, I'm also aware of the racism and stupidity over there, so taking sides with them in a dispute is not really at the top of my list of priorities.
I also love that Bushy supported the Immigration reform that congress failed so badly to implement. He also speaks Spanish, which I think is nice. I can almost forgive him for going to Yale. I really support a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants. I know illegals from Europe, Africa and of course Latin America. We should legalize them, if only to keep track of who's here. If they commit crimes etc, whe can always deport them, but it's difficult if we don't even know who's illegal and who's not. I also think that American needs more competition and fresh blood that will invigorate our immigrant nation.
Kinkytoes, I love your posts! You're honesty is refreshing as is your lack of an agenda. I also love the way you express yourself. Very entertaining to read!
I don't support Republicans becuase I have some sort of hate for the less well off, but becuase as I have matured into a young adult, I feel they more closley align with my views.
Reason 1:
I Don't support government control over my life. More socialism may help with inequality, yes, but it has a cost. Look at Britian and it's CCTV camera system. Do you really want to live like that? The thought of the government having the size and power to dictate and direct society, even if for the good, rarley if ever works out well. Even Hitler, in the end, said he felt he needed to do what he did for "The Greater Good". Hmmm, sound familiar? Take Healthcare for instance: What happens when in an effort to cut costs, they take away fatty foods. Then next maybe it's alcohol. Maybe then it's not providing care to the disablied (see how the Liberals are smashing Pailn for keeping a Downs Syndrome kid). It's a slippery slope.
Reason 2:
The moral rot that has penetrated the US (as well as Western Europe) is the result of almost 50 years of "If it feels good, do it" ideology. I'm not a Anti-gay nut, a prude, or someone trying to get into the preisthood. But having said that, both as a citizen and as a christian, we are heading for a clockwork orange world, and I fear for what that may do for our children. While the Repubs are just as morally corrput as anyone, by shifting more monies into faith and humanist based programs, I feel we can invigorate a healthier debate on human consciousness and the role of morality in daily life. Also, I feel socialism subsidizes bad behaviors.
Reason 3:
I don't think the economics of socialism is sustainable. While I don't scream bloody murder at every little penny like Murdoch or Forbes, we already consume a quarter of our GDP in Washington. That's alot! Frankly, I wouldn't be opposed to many government programs if they didn't cost so much. But this is what happens when government becomes a job creation agency. It isn't the programs themselves per-say that are the problem, but it's the fact that the government has zero incentive to cost save and actually deliver what is intended. If a buisness operated like Washington, it would be bankrupt in 24 hours. Well, it's been 232 years and counting, yet no one seems to be any closer to finding a sure fire way to hold Congresses feet to the fire.
Reason 4:
This personally may be the straw that broke the camel's back for me in turning me away from the Left, but even when you post here on P&OC, you can definetly tell right away how the Left-leaning posters are always ready with the personal and crass attacks. I don't agree with everyone all the time, but I consider myself a very tolerant person. To me, to show the outright egotism and arrogance so much of Hollywood, Netroots and the Establishment show towards anyone not like them (See: "Typical White People" Comment). Also, as it pertains to color, ask any white liberal about Blacks and it's like were all in the ghetto smoking crack and listening to MC Hammer remixes. Yes, there is still a color and class divide in this country, but show me another country where Blacks have risen to the ranks of Oprah, Colin Powell, Clarence Tomhas, The CEO of American express (yes, he is a Black man), and countless others. For a party built on "Tolerance", it seems in short supply whenever the convo features left-thinking people. That, and the tendancy to treat people of color as victims rather than people needed a hand up, is extremely condiscending to me.
I don't support Republicans becuase I have some sort of hate for the less well off, but becuase as I have matured into a young adult, I feel they more closley align with my views.
Reason 1:
I Don't support government control over my life. More socialism may help with inequality, yes, but it has a cost. Look at Britian and it's CCTV camera system. Do you really want to live like that? The thought of the government having the size and power to dictate and direct society, even if for the good, rarley if ever works out well. Even Hitler, in the end, said he felt he needed to do what he did for "The Greater Good". Hmmm, sound familiar? Take Healthcare for instance: What happens when in an effort to cut costs, they take away fatty foods. Then next maybe it's alcohol. Maybe then it's not providing care to the disablied (see how the Liberals are smashing Pailn for keeping a Downs Syndrome kid). It's a slippery slope.
Reason 2:
The moral rot that has penetrated the US (as well as Western Europe) is the result of almost 50 years of "If it feels good, do it" ideology. I'm not a Anti-gay nut, a prude, or someone trying to get into the preisthood. But having said that, both as a citizen and as a christian, we are heading for a clockwork orange world, and I fear for what that may do for our children. While the Repubs are just as morally corrput as anyone, by shifting more monies into faith and humanist based programs, I feel we can invigorate a healthier debate on human consciousness and the role of morality in daily life. Also, I feel socialism subsidizes bad behaviors.
Reason 3:
I don't think the economics of socialism is sustainable. While I don't scream bloody murder at every little penny like Murdoch or Forbes, we already consume a quarter of our GDP in Washington. That's alot! Frankly, I wouldn't be opposed to many government programs if they didn't cost so much. But this is what happens when government becomes a job creation agency. It isn't the programs themselves per-say that are the problem, but it's the fact that the government has zero incentive to cost save and actually deliver what is intended. If a buisness operated like Washington, it would be bankrupt in 24 hours. Well, it's been 232 years and counting, yet no one seems to be any closer to finding a sure fire way to hold Congresses feet to the fire.
Reason 4:
This personally may be the straw that broke the camel's back for me in turning me away from the Left, but even when you post here on P&OC, you can definetly tell right away how the Left-leaning posters are always ready with the personal and crass attacks. I don't agree with everyone all the time, but I consider myself a very tolerant person. To me, to show the outright egotism and arrogance so much of Hollywood, Netroots and the Establishment show towards anyone not like them (See: "Typical White People" Comment). Also, as it pertains to color, ask any white liberal about Blacks and it's like were all in the ghetto smoking crack and listening to MC Hammer remixes. Yes, there is still a color and class divide in this country, but show me another country where Blacks have risen to the ranks of Oprah, Colin Powell, Clarence Tomhas, The CEO of American express (yes, he is a Black man), and countless others. For a party built on "Tolerance", it seems in short supply whenever the convo features left-thinking people. That, and the tendancy to treat people of color as victims rather than people needed a hand up, is extremely condiscending to me.
Really? Last time I checked, the Republican Party is the reason for a little ol' thing called ABOLITION. You know, the end of slavery?
Wasn't that at a time (the 1860s) when "Republican" meant what "Democrat" means today? You don't want to distort this and I wonder why you feel the need to do so here.
Good thread, a subject I have always wanted to ask my fellow black citizens. Growing up in Georgia, the supremecists were primarily democrats (Lester Maddox, George Wallace, etc). I don't understand what seems to be blind loyalty to the democratic party, something like over 90% of blacks consistently vote Democrat in national elections.
Where are the JC Watts? I love that man and would vote for him in a second. A co-worker called me racist and sexist when I said I would never vote for Hilary or Obama. I said I would vote for Condy Rice for prez in a heartbeat if she would have thrown her hat in the ring and thus nullify both her unfounded sterotypes of my character because I am a conservative.
Most African Americans I know are socially conservative. Why vote for such a liberal social platform? Most I know are middle class. Why vote for such a socialist tax happy agenda?
I appreciate those who have responded in this thread, especially Kinkytoes and Shizzles. I gave you both a quick reputation vote!
It has always been my experience that the Republican party is the party for the racially insensitive. So I'd like to get the perspective of blacks who have chosen to be Republicans. How did you become a Republican, what turned you off to Democrats? What say you about my racial insenstivity observation?
Thanks for your insights.
"Always been [your] experience"? In what way? What do you mean by that? And what do you mean by "the party for the racially insensitive"?
What does race have to do with either party? The Republican Party is called the "Party of Lincoln", and Lincoln ended slavery. That is the only thing I can think of that ties race to a particular party.
There are a lot of black Republicans. Some have achieved high office: Ken Blackwell (Ohio Secretary of State), Clarence Thomas (Supreme Court), Condoleeza Rice (Secretary of State). Others are writers, educators, like Walter E. Williams (Economist, Professor, George Mason University), Thomas Sowell (Economist, writer). I'm sure I could rattle of a few more if I sat here a while and thought about it.
Where are the JC Watts? I love that man and would vote for him in a second. A co-worker called me racist and sexist when I said I would never vote for Hilary or Obama. I said I would vote for Condy Rice for prez in a heartbeat
I would too.
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...if she would have thrown her hat in the ring and thus nullify both her unfounded sterotypes of my character because I am a conservative.
Most African Americans I know are socially conservative.
My experience also.
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Originally Posted by Saintmarks
Why vote for such a liberal social platform? Most I know are middle class. Why vote for such a socialist tax happy agenda?
I appreciate those who have responded in this thread, especially Kinkytoes and Shizzles. I gave you both a quick reputation vote!
It's funny watching white Democrats telling black Republicans (and black Democrats as well) that they aren't "being black" if they vote Republican.
Further proof the Dems are racist and patronizing.
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All of the other issues don't really affect me. Abortion, Gay marriage etc. I don't really care. I believe in live and let live, but I'm not in support personally of things I consider immoral. 
). It's a slippery slope. 
