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Old 10-31-2008, 10:51 AM
 
Location: PA
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Ok how about this one socialist liberals.

A man drives to work, in his SUV and drops off his 2 kids at daycare in the state of new jersey. Total charges for daycare 25,000 per year. He makes 87k per year before taxes.
We works in the IT field and works overtime on weekends and is a contractor. Getting straight time for overtime he makes about 100k before taxes. Then he is taxed forthe federal income tax, state tax, local property taxes of 5,700 per year SS tax and is paying sales taxes. So after all the taxes and daycare that he has to pay he has just enough to pay for his home, car and food and clothes for his 2 kids. Under every plan Obama or McCain, Bush/Clinton and since FDR he will be taxed because after all he needs to pay his fair share right?

When was last time any of you really sat down and looked at how much your government is stealing from you every paycheck. While they WASTE your money and your freedoms you are stuck with the bill.
Obama and McCain are just both poor examples of BIG government ideas. Start demanding they take no money from you. The government has gotten so big they can steal from you and we no choices. Is this freedom or slavery.

Normal Americans can all agree that the government is and always will be broken no matter how much money you give them. In fact the more money they have the worse it gets. Plus no matter how wonderful you package socialism, stealing from me is WRONG I have a responsiblity to myself and my family to provide, protect and survive. Not be a slave to a system that promotes waste, abuse and moving my money from person to person. You can not promote fairness with more government and stealing!!!! Fairness is keeping what you EARN and create with your mind, your labor it is not the governments job to move your wealth, money or housing to fit the needs of the dependants and criminals.

If ever their should be roits it should be pay day when you look at your checks instead we roit when million dollar players win a world seriers. The government has you all BRAINWASHED WAKE UP, GET Angry and do something!

Solution start promoting the idea of FU to the government.
Elect people who think government is SCREWING us let them repeal most of these slave laws against ALL Americans. Demand freedom and independance not more slavery and campaign sloans for the slaves of America.
What do you have to lose a social security system that will probably be broke by the time you use it.
A government that wont have the resources to over regulate every part of your lives.
What is so bad about that. Government should be small and limited to let Americans guide their family and country with limitless ideas and money in their pockets they earn.

It's time for an FU vote!!!
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Old 10-31-2008, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Montrose, CA
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Ok how about this one socialist liberals.

A man drives to work, in his SUV and drops off his 2 kids at daycare in the state of new jersey. Total charges for daycare 25,000 per year. He makes 87k per year before taxes.
We works in the IT field and works overtime on weekends and is a contractor. Getting straight time for overtime he makes about 100k before taxes. Then he is taxed forthe federal income tax, state tax, local property taxes of 5,700 per year SS tax and is paying sales taxes. So after all the taxes and daycare that he has to pay he has just enough to pay for his home, car and food and clothes for his 2 kids. !
Let's see...get rid of the SUV, move to a state that doesn't bend its population over a barrel on taxes, and don't have kids unless you have someone that can stay home to take care of them. You'll be a lot better off.
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Old 10-31-2008, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Right where I want to be.
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I'm not brainwashed. We are slaves to the government about 50% of our working time, including all taxes. I get that. 50% of what we work for is taken from us by force and yes, I resent it. We do our part to support charitable causes as well, and they are far more effective than what the government tries to do...what a waste.

However, people are feeling more and more powerless. We are working for the government rather than the government working for us and we have fewer and fewer options. No one who really supports freedom has a chance to win this election so I am stuck voting for the lesser of two evils, which I only hope will slow the process but I have no such illusions that I will be delivered from government bondage any time soon.
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Old 10-31-2008, 11:08 AM
 
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Let's see...get rid of the SUV, move to a state that doesn't bend its population over a barrel on taxes, and don't have kids unless you have someone that can stay home to take care of them. You'll be a lot better off.
Lets see, live our way or we will tax you to death because we know we can't just strip your freedoms and tell you how to live, not yet that is, but you are working on it, Right?
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Old 10-31-2008, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Perhaps the Republicans should have cut spending rather than cut taxes.
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Old 10-31-2008, 11:10 AM
 
Location: PA
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Let's see...get rid of the SUV, move to a state that doesn't bend its population over a barrel on taxes, and don't have kids unless you have someone that can stay home to take care of them. You'll be a lot better off.

Ok so I must be a limited slave this way I will move like nomad in order to keep ahead of the federal government.
Their was a time when you could have 2 kids and drive a truck to work and live in NJ. Are you saying if you have 2 kids and live in NJ that is not possible. Fact is no matter where you move to or how many kids you have the government is stealing from ME and it has nothing to do with how I live. I could be save every penny I made and live on the street and make 100k a year or live in a car!!! It doesn excuse the fact of repeated STEALING!!! I also noticed you refuse to see the example and ignore overall issue of broken government and how much they take from everyone. I their for assume you are the enemny the part of the problem and will probably enjoy the false ideals that your somehow free and government is helping you right.
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Old 10-31-2008, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Montrose, CA
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Lets see, live our way or we will tax you to death because we know we can't just strip your freedoms and tell you how to live, not yet that is, but you are working on it, Right?
No, more like "how about living reasonably within your means"?
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Old 10-31-2008, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Right where I want to be.
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No, more like "how about living reasonably within your means"?
I do that already although 50% OF MY MEANS ARE CONFISCATED BY THE GOVERNMENT. How arrogant!! Maybe they should get 60% or 70% and I should just learn to live with whatever they allow me to keep, shut my mouth and be happy about it.
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Old 10-31-2008, 11:17 AM
 
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let's hand Liberty a Kleenex!

let's see I am a single taxpayer and I shouldn't give a crap about education yet I worry what would happen if we didn't care about the future of our kids!

Liberty somebody paid enough taxes to put you through school and now you want to be selfish?

Grow up!
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Old 10-31-2008, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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I do that already although 50% OF MY MEANS ARE CONFISCATED BY THE GOVERNMENT. How arrogant!! Maybe they should get 60% or 70% and I should just learn to live with whatever they allow me to keep, shut my mouth and be happy about it.
Try voting for a different government.
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