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Isn't it funny how some people cannot grasp the difference between conservatives and the religious right and/or moral majority?
Conservative posters, in general, use this board to whine about losing their personal freedoms, and in almost every case, they make no reference to religion or morality as a basis for their position. That comes into play only when marriage becomes the pesonal freedom that they suddenly don't have any concern for anymore.
BTW, I saw the vote tally last night. I think you had better start getting used to calling it the Moral Minority.
Should the government be involved in marriage?
If not, how do you resolve the issues that come with state benefits of marriage and federal benefits of marriage?
I'm sure there are more questions so...feel free to ask and answer.
I just want to see people's views on the topic.
The federal government should not be involved in placing religous dogma unto its citizens. Is homesexuality a sin? Who cares, 'sins' are ever so subjective these days, sexing up with a ho is an indiscretion yet wanting to marry, raise a family and remain monogamous is 'sinful'?
Screw it! The government has no right nor any purpose in outlining morality. If that is the case, all illegimate pregnancies should be outlawed as should all divorces.
I think marriage should be legalized for gays, and they should be eligible for all tax benefits as a married couple. I agree with cb at sea and that if the flat tax was ever instituted in this country that whole aspect of the debate would be moot.
I think any two consenting adults should be able to enter into marriage, if they so chose.
No one's business, but those involved.
All marriages should be treated the same under the law.
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Conservative posters, in general, use this board to whine about losing their personal freedoms, and in almost every case, they make no reference to religion or morality as a basis for their position. That comes into play only when marriage becomes the pesonal freedom that they suddenly don't have any concern for anymore.
That may be (though I see just as many posts from conservatives who have no problem with gay marriage), nonetheless there is a difference between fiscal conservatives and the religous right. Which is why the libertarian movement is gaining ground within the gop. Actual conservatives have been betrayed in favor of courting the moral majority.
Frankly, I find it insulting to be lumped in with them.
Moral minority? Yes, actually I agree with you on that. The old school moral majority are aging/dying out. I think the republicans will transform themselves into more of a libertarian party within my lifetime.
The federal government should not be involved in placing religous dogma unto its citizens. Is homesexuality a sin? Who cares, 'sins' are ever so subjective these days, sexing up with a ho is an indiscretion yet wanting to marry, raise a family and remain monogamous is 'sinful'?
Screw it! The government has no right nor any purpose in outlining morality. If that is the case, all illegimate pregnancies should be outlawed as should all divorces.
I think marriage should be legalized for gays, and they should be eligible for all tax benefits as a married couple. I agree with cb at sea and that if the flat tax was ever instituted in this country that whole aspect of the debate would be moot.
"Sexing up with a ho is an indisrection...."
Ih goodness, that truly made me laugh out loud.
Thanks fo rthat. =]
No they don't. States have a right to say who can marry and who cannot, based on age and perhaps other critersi, but once a person is eligible to marry, the government has no right to limit spouse choices. Unless you like the idea of government restrticting personal freedom in general. (My original post was edited, and not all replies are to the same version.)
States have the right to limit all kinds of things.
So your all for poligamy marriages? I mean after all, they've reached the age of consent right? Ooh, thats different ha? Thats one of those "other criteria" you discussed. Anotherwords, people should be allowed to marry who they want, provided they confirm to your approval..
States have the right to limit all kinds of things.
So your all for poligamy marriages? I mean after all, they've reached the age of consent right? Ooh, thats different ha? Thats one of those "other criteria" you discussed. Anotherwords, people should be allowed to marry who they want, provided they confirm to your approval..
Hey, 28 bazillion wives, whatever, as long as the government keeps its nose out of religious matters.
On my marriage application it said "party A" and "party B", that was humiliating enough.
I see no problem with them having "domestic partnerships" as they had before, there is no reason to legislate for the 2% of people who want to bond with the same sex.
It's the same thing, just don't call it MARRIAGE.
It was ridiculous the first time they struck down how the public voted, it's even more ridiculous now because there will be some Judge who decides again that it's unconstitutional and we'll vote it down again.
The federal government should not be involved in placing religous dogma unto its citizens. Is homesexuality a sin? Who cares, 'sins' are ever so subjective these days, sexing up with a ho is an indiscretion yet wanting to marry, raise a family and remain monogamous is 'sinful'?
Screw it! The government has no right nor any purpose in outlining morality. If that is the case, all illegimate pregnancies should be outlawed as should all divorces.
I think marriage should be legalized for gays, and they should be eligible for all tax benefits as a married couple. I agree with cb at sea and that if the flat tax was ever instituted in this country that whole aspect of the debate would be moot.
For all intents and purposes, this long time conservative agrees wholeheartedly.
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