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Here in Minnesota we have been dealing with a smoking ban on restaurants and bars. The ban was struck down state-wide, except in the counties that surround Minneapolis/St. Paul. Many people are upset that smoking is not allowed in public places. I for one am extremely happy for this because I simply don't like the smell of cigarette smoke and all other types. My wife and kids have severe asthma so that is yet a more important reason for not wanting to be around the smoke.
Many people of course are whining that their rights are being taken away by these bans that have been in place for about a year now. My take on it is what about the rights of nonsmokers? What about the rights of people like my young kids who have asthma and can't go out to restaurants if there is a smoking section? It's a controversy where there are no winners...and everyone loses...like my mother-in-law who died due to smoking.
Why is it that the harm from second-hand smoke is accepted as sound science but global warming is some leftist consipracy? I dont smoke and I dont care for smoke, but if someone wants to smoke, and it is in a public area or a "smoking section" they can. If there is a business that wants to cater to the smoker, I'll let the business know that I as a non smoker wont contribute to the business by being a patron and will let my non-smoker friends know.
Here in Minnesota we have been dealing with a smoking ban on restaurants and bars. The ban was struck down state-wide, except in the counties that surround Minneapolis/St. Paul. Many people are upset that smoking is not allowed in public places. I for one am extremely happy for this because I simply don't like the smell of cigarette smoke and all other types. My wife and kids have severe asthma so that is yet a more important reason for not wanting to be around the smoke.
Many people of course are whining that their rights are being taken away by these bans that have been in place for about a year now. My take on it is what about the rights of nonsmokers? What about the rights of people like my young kids who have asthma and can't go out to restaurants if there is a smoking section? It's a controversy where there are no winners...and everyone loses...like my mother-in-law who died due to smoking.
You go to another restaurant. That's the way it should be.
The government should not be telling business owners whether or not smokers can patronize their businesses. As such a strong Christian I have to assume that you're right-wing. Don't you people preach "less government"? Or is that only when it suits you? I'm confused.
I'm sure there are PLENTY of non-smoking restaurants for you to patronize. Show your preference by going there. Smokers in turn will go to the establishments that allow smoking. Eventually, the laws of business will determine whether or not you can smoke in a given establishment.
I personally do not patronize places that do not allow smoking. That's my choice as a smoker. IMHO though, smoking "sections" should be outlawed. Either it's a smoking establishment, or it's not. The smoke flows all over, and having a "smoking section" is ridiculous.
I'm sorry to hear about your MIL. I too live with an asthmatic . We avoid smoke in public places like the plague.
However, it is important to remember that nicotine addiction is a serious addiction. One that has been both pushed in the popular media and subsidized by our government.
I have compassion for my fellow human beings who smoke and want to quit.
I choose to "vote" with my dollars. I frequent establishments that do not allow smoking...and avoid those that do.
I'm sorry to hear about your MIL. I too live with an asthmatic . We avoid smoke in public places like the plague.
However, it is important to remember that nicotine addiction is a serious addiction. One that has been both pushed in the popular media and subsidized by our government.
I have compassion for my fellow human beings who smoke and want to quit.
I choose to "vote" with my dollars. I frequent establishments that do not allow smoking...and avoid those that do.
Here in New Jersey, we don't have any choice, unless we gamble. Only portions of the casinos (another story) allow it.
You are so right about the addiction part. Nicotine has been shown to be a harder addiction to kick than heroin. Anyone who wants to wag fingers at smokers should think of that before lecturing. And like plaidmom said, relatively recently it was not only government subsidized, but very socially acceptable.
That said, personally, while I still have a cigarette or two a day (I've written it off as my guilty pleasure), I do appreciate not having to walk out of a restaurant smelling like stale smoke. I also appreciate it not being made easy for me to smoke- I think that helps me smoke less. It's one of those things that people get used to pretty quickly. Those that don't like it just stay home more.
I choose to "vote" with my dollars. I frequent establishments that do not allow smoking...and avoid those that do.
Well spoken. Your choice of establishments (along with other like minded people) will dictate the success of certain businesses and serve as part of a collective voice that truly speaks for what America wants. We don't need the government telling us what is best for us or what we want. We'll decide for ourselves within the capital framework that exists for the purpose of bolstering freedom, thank you.
No more good inention laws. We have some that still need overturned as it is. If you dont want to smoke, dont. If you dont want to be around it then dont. If someone is smoking and bothering you ask them to put it out and tell them you have serious asthma. If the plae you go to allows smoking find somehwere else instead of telling them what to do with their lives or business. It isn that cigarettes arent terrible, the point of liberties matter more.
Tribal casinos allow smoking, amazing how many people go there. and many are non-smokers. Second hand smoke is bs science, no scientist ever listed just how many ppm there has to be in the air to assure you will get cancer. Its just pc hype. Just like global warming.
You go to another restaurant. That's the way it should be.
The government should not be telling business owners whether or not smokers can patronize their businesses. As such a strong Christian I have to assume that you're right-wing. Don't you people preach "less government"? Or is that only when it suits you? I'm confused.
I'm sure there are PLENTY of non-smoking restaurants for you to patronize. Show your preference by going there. Smokers in turn will go to the establishments that allow smoking. Eventually, the laws of business will determine whether or not you can smoke in a given establishment.
I personally do not patronize places that do not allow smoking. That's my choice as a smoker. IMHO though, smoking "sections" should be outlawed. Either it's a smoking establishment, or it's not. The smoke flows all over, and having a "smoking section" is ridiculous.
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Exactly! I couldn't careless if you smoke or not. I don't smoke anymore. It was on and off for awhile for me, but now i'm completely off cigarettes.
But I don't think others should have to sit in their own homes just to have a smoke. This argument was brought up before.
If smokers are not allowed to smoke in public, then I don't want to see anyone fat eat a candy bar in front of my face. Or I don't want anyone who has kids that **** themselves at any store that I shop at. You have bad gas? You best go home, I don't want to smell it.
Saying you can't smoke in public places like bars, restaurants, and bowling alleys, is the most retarded thing ever. That's just saying, if you smoke, you're not allowed to have a social life. And places like bars get most of their business from smokers, and so do bowling alleys.
And yes, it is disgusting sometimes, but it's no different than that fat kid that just shoved 6 twix in his mouth. I find that pretty disgusting, and a filthy habit.
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