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what is disgusting in all this anti gay marriage ammendments is the ability of the people on the right to understand how this impacts everything. They fail to realize that while they do not agree with gay marriage.. putting it to a vote is unconstitutional. By all means if you are given the opportunity to vote and voice your opinion, you should be able to vote your conscience. Some things are not meant to be voted on. Many people also fail to realize the impact of common law in our judicial system. allowing a majority to change the constitution to outlaw gay marriage is no different than allowing anti gun lobbyists to get enough votes and change the constitution to outlaw guns. ITS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. but because it is an issue that swayed in their favored direction they fail to realize the implications of it. What happens when we starting putting gun laws to a vote.. and your neighbors are able to vote your guns away from you????? Letting this ballot measure stand would set a precedent for allowing other measures to come about.. where others lose their rights.. further allowing the "vote of the people" to tear the country apart. We all have a right to believe what we may.. but if you're going to try to make action in outlawing something.. it has to be done the right way... and these ballot measures in 30 states are anything but constitutional....
you must know that on some issues we are in the majority.. and on many others we are of the minority... wait until a "majority" starts taking your rights away....
I'm just wondering what priests and pastors are telling their congregation about gay people. With all the Christian teen pregnancies, out of wedlock births and high divorce rates, it appears the Christian's ultimate goal is to dismantle marriage.
I think the point your missing is that most parent don't want values training in the public school system. We want to teach our children our values, thank you very much. Of course, the left loves the idea of getting into our young impressionable kids heads when their parents aren't around. Adults have the mature ability to reason. We know the liberal values are no values at all. They are certainly not proper values to teach a child. Kids haven't yet achieved that level of sophistication. Someone else used to do that. I just can't quite remember the name of that guy with the youth group named after him....
I guess they also learned how to process and deal with facets of everyday life that made them uncomfortable or challenged their preconceptions when they were still in grade school.
What exactly are you afraid of the school system teaching your children? tolerance?
whether you like it or not.. your children go to school with other kids that have two mommies or two daddies... and your kids are going to grow up and enter a world where homosexuals exist.. they are going to have to interact with and get along with them. Doesn't mean they have to believe being homosexual is right. The schools aren't there to undo what parents are teaching..but they are faced with addressing all issues that exist in the greater society.. because it is a public school... You have every right to instill in your children what's right and wrong.. but "thankyou very much" you don't have a right to put your kids in the public schools and expect the public schools to shun gays and their kids because you don't agree with their lifestyle. all it takes is teaching your kids that there are people in this world that do not live proper lives according to god's principles or whatever.... if you're worried that tolerance education is going to wipe those principles out of their mind.. then you better put them in a religious school.
it wouldn't be special.. because every straight person would be able to marry someone of the same sex too.
Thank you for saying that. That fact seems to be lost on a lot of people. For them to say that gay men have a right to marry a woman just as a straight man does, is nonsensical, to put it nicely.
What exactly are you afraid of the school system teaching your children? tolerance?
whether you like it or not.. your children go to school with other kids that have two mommies or two daddies... and your kids are going to grow up and enter a world where homosexuals exist.. they are going to have to interact with and get along with them. Doesn't mean they have to believe being homosexual is right. The schools aren't there to undo what parents are teaching..but they are faced with addressing all issues that exist in the greater society.. because it is a public school... You have every right to instill in your children what's right and wrong.. but "thankyou very much" you don't have a right to put your kids in the public schools and expect the public schools to shun gays and their kids because you don't agree with their lifestyle. all it takes is teaching your kids that there are people in this world that do not live proper lives according to god's principles or whatever.... if you're worried that tolerance education is going to wipe those principles out of their mind.. then you better put them in a religious school.
Absolutely. The idea that kids shouldn't be taught about a group of people (gays) who are in the news every day is preposterous.
many gay people do marry people of the opposite sex.. and their gay feelings end up destroying their family... and people end up hurt...
so wouldn't it be logical to allow people to be honest with their feelings and enter into a union with someone they actually are compatible with?
How would you feel if your daughter or son married someone that is gay.. but never was open and honest about it??? only to see your grandkid's lives torn apart and your child's life ruined and their marriage once they decide to be open and honest with themselves?? wouldn't you want that person to be open and honest from the get go.. and not drag your child down a path of lies for the sake of following socieatal norms???
I mean, if someone is open about their sexuality.. they're being "in your face about it" and if someone is wanting to marry someone of the same sex.. it's deplorable.. and that they should marry someone of the opposite sex if they want to get married.. then when they actually do follow all this advice... end up destroying other's lives as well? would you want your daughter in love with a gay man who is pretending to have feelings that aren't there?? and would you want your daughter having children with this man??? you wouldn't ever know unless he was able to be who he is.. express who he is.... and it being a valid reason for breaking your daughter's heart as a twenty something dating couple.. rather than as a 40yo family of 5... what would be the best situation?......
I care because a small group of people decided to say no to a step foward like Civil Unions and now Gays have nothing to show for their effort.
They could've had civil unions like Obama, Clinton, and Pelosi promised, but I bet they wouldn't even touch the issue now that Americans are in disgust over the entire gay marriage ordeal.
Civil unions don't work to the exclusion of marriage because the Church wants their gay couples to be married in the eyes of God. How does the state have the right to interfere in religious matters?
Gay couple to be married in the eyes of god? What made up god are you refering to?
If they would just allow civil unions in all 50 states (by either state or federal law), maybe gays WOULD be happy with it. I feel it hasn't even been given a chance. I think Obama needs to make this happen, otherwise certain states will never pass it. Just give them all this opportunity and see what happens in 8-10 years. The Democrats need to seriously make some changes around here.
Obama and Congress had the green light from Americans to approve Civil Unions nationally before this Prop 8 ordeal, now Americans are against it.
Gays have noone to blame but themselves.
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