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Old 02-08-2009, 06:26 PM
 
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In my view you are completely loosing it to the point of derangement. No need to insult others, specially if you are a "professor." Prove your points in a sane manner, and people may listen.
I speak the truth, and I am "losing it to the point of derangement?" No. Your response is simply the typical enraged response to a truth that people don't want to hear.

The truth about what happens to animals in this culture could be served up on a golden platter with silk napkins, and the gentlest language in the world, and people would still not listen.
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Old 02-08-2009, 06:27 PM
 
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You are. And naive. And self-righteous.

When 1 in 100 calves make it in a calfing season - that is a problem.

The fact remains - since the culling program that number has risen to 39 in a 100. I would think you would applaud that.
No, I am not.

Source of the "fact" your quote?
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Old 02-08-2009, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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I'm sorry, but it appears that you are wrong.

Sarah Palin, predator control, shooting wolves | Salon
Do you really want me to believe some inaccurate article from a political electronic rag, when i can get the numbers myself from F&G? Don't you realize that this data is gathered from the harvest reports that must be submitted by every hunter? Not filing the harvest report is punishable by law.
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Old 02-08-2009, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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I speak the truth, and I am "losing it to the point of derangement?" No. Your response is simply the typical enraged response to a truth that people don't want to hear.

The truth about what happens to animals in this culture could be served up on a golden platter with silk napkins, and the gentlest language in the world, and people would still not listen.
No. You are losing it when you are insulting others in this forum. You have been nice enough to me, however.
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Old 02-08-2009, 06:33 PM
 
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Do you really want me to believe some inaccurate article from a political electronic rag, when i can get the numbers myself from F&G? Don't you realize that this data is gathered from the harvest reports that must be submitted by every hunter? Not filing the harvest report is punishable by law.
Look, data gathered from hunters is highly questionable. Everybody knows that.

That "political electronic rag" includes commentary from Alaska wildlife biologists. F&G, in fact, is far less reliable, in terms of accurate information.

Let's just agree to disagree.
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Old 02-08-2009, 06:34 PM
 
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No. You are losing it when you are insulting others in this forum. You have been nice enough to me, however.
I did not mean to "insult" anyone. I find it very hard to digest, however, when people take a light-hearted and mocking attitude when it comes to cruelty to animals. I think if you were to read this thread from the beginning, you would understand what I mean.
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Old 02-08-2009, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I'm sorry, but it appears that you are wrong.
You expect an interpretation from Salon to be unbiased, objective and without and agenda?

Week in review: Alaska News | adn.com

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Slaughtering wolves on the Alaska Peninsula appears to have had the desired effect -- more caribou got a chance to live, according to biologists with the Alaska Department of Fish and Game. As ugly and as politically incorrect as the wolf killing might seem to some, they said, the helicopter gunning that took place earlier this year saved caribou, especially young caribou, from being eaten alive. Fall surveys of the Southern Alaska Peninsula caribou herd completed in October found an average of 39 calves per 100 cows. That's a dramatic improvement from fall counts of only 1 calf per 100 cows in 2006 and 2007.
The orignial story from ADN is in one or more of CD threads. Better yet, go to the Alaska F&G - I'm sure they have the report, since it comes from that department.
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Old 02-08-2009, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Look, data gathered from hunters is highly questionable. Everybody knows that.

That "political electronic rag" includes commentary from Alaska wildlife biologists. F&G, in fact, is far less reliable, in terms of accurate information.

Let's just agree to disagree.
You.must.be.kidding.

Alaskan F&G, biologists and conservationists are less reliable than an internet blog?

I pity the parents of the students you are "teaching".
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Old 02-08-2009, 06:51 PM
 
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You.must.be.kidding.

Alaskan F&G, biologists and conservationists are less reliable than an internet blog?

I pity the parents of the students you are "teaching".
Your insults aside, sources must be vetted. Not all biologists and conservationists agree on wildlife management. And government agencies--as has been pointed out to you before--are hardly across-the-board reliable sources of dispassionate/apolitical information.
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Old 02-08-2009, 06:52 PM
 
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Another source of information. Already posted before, and that no doubt will be ignored again, but just for the record.

http://www.defenders.org/resources/p...gov._palin.pdf
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