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Old 10-05-2011, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Students were placed in classes by skill/ability level back then, and the curriculum and pace were appropriately modified to meet each group's needs.

Now, public schools "teach" (and I use that word extremely loosely) a one-size-fits-all curriculum which by definition, must be significantly below average to target the majority in the mixed-ability classes ideology to which they currently subscribe.

Even worse, talented and highly skilled students must now halt their learning to help others in the class because the teachers are stretched so thinly by competeing demands in the mixed-ability classrooms that they cannot possibly get around to all the students who need varying levels of help. Those skilled students are assigned others in the class and used as defacto slave labor teacher's aides, while not being allowed to develop their academic potential.
You still haven't answered why you didn't go to private school.

 
Old 10-05-2011, 10:21 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You still haven't answered why you didn't go to private school.
Yes, I did. You're choosing to not see the contrast between then, and now.
 
Old 10-05-2011, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Yes, I did. You're choosing to not see the contrast between then, and now.
I don't care for contrasts drawn by opinionated people. I'm asking for why you chose public over private. And you still haven't addressed that, because that is something a bit beyond presenting, you guessed it right... an opinion.
 
Old 10-05-2011, 10:28 AM
 
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I don't care for contrasts drawn by opinionated people. I'm asking for why you chose public over private.
It's not an opinion; it's a fact. Read The Atlantic article I posted.

The reason is the difference between what public education used to be, and what it has devolved into now.
 
Old 10-05-2011, 10:33 AM
 
Location: southern california
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good post. deception, in a word. something claiming to "education" that is not.
50% dropout, rampant gangbang culture, and diploma people here, omg, reading and math at 6th grade level.
voucher, sooner the better.
btw its not the teachers that made this horror, lawyers did it.
 
Old 10-05-2011, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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It's not an opinion; it's a fact. Read The Atlantic article I posted.

The reason is the difference between what public education used to be, and what it has devolved into now.
It is an opinion, whether printed or babbled out in a public forum.

Was private education no better than public education when you went for the latter.
 
Old 10-05-2011, 10:41 AM
 
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It is an opinion, whether printed or babbled out in a public forum.
You've got blinders on.

Read the article. It cites facts.
 
Old 10-05-2011, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Texas
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That's partly to blame but the downhill slide began at least 4 decades ago, when public schools' focus shifted to only the lowest achievers.

This college prof nails it (research cited):The Other Crisis in American Education - 91.11

Note that the article was written a decade before NCLB was enacted.

Of course, even before NCLB, principals were pressuring teachers to "improve" the passing rate of students in their classes. Administrators and many parents want to see standards lowered so that more marginal students are passed on to the next level.
 
Old 10-05-2011, 10:55 AM
 
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Of course, even before NCLB, principals were pressuring teachers to "improve" the passing rate of students in their classes. Administrators and many parents want to see standards lowered so that more marginal students are passed on to the next level.
Some parents. Not all.

Why are they the only ones being catered to? Other parents want their children's potential developed. Why don't schools cater to those parents' wishes, as well?
 
Old 10-05-2011, 10:56 AM
 
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You've got blinders on.
Read the article. It cites facts.
It boils down to opinion. I'm looking for facts that led your choice of public school over private. Why do you keep running around this question?
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