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Exactly, what people fail to understand is everything done on a computer can be outsourced. This is in addition to manufacturing.
So all these people who say globalization is here to stay we need to adapt cant come up with real solutions only these buzz words that get thrown around with no substance.
1) Yesterday on the evening news, I saw the new trend - patients consulted by doctors over the internet. Guess what - in a short time, health care insurance companies will realize that they can lower their cost with outsourcing. CT or MRI machines can be operated by technicians in the US (on H1-B visa) while doctors in India or China review the results. The same can be done for all medical tests and consultations. Its just a matter of time.
2) Japan, China and India are all developing their new space programs, which can put any satellite in orbit for less...
3) China announced that they will design a new passenger jetliner. The technology will mostly come from Boeing, which already outsources much of its plane building to Europe and China.
These are just 3 examples of where the future of sophisticated industries is, as for the low tech, we already know.
A few thousand temporary construction jobs and a few handouts will not fix the job problem. Maybe the crash will be postponed for a year, but we can't do a trillion dollar 'stimulus' every year. If we want to re-establish ourselves as world leaders in the economic sense, we need for the permanent good paying jobs to return, otherwise we will be reduced immensely. The financial sector was propping up the economy, providing trillions in funny money, that people spent willy-nilly, providing work millions of jobs. Now it's all gone, and the 'real' jobs like tech and manufacturing are not being done by Americans. We will soon be reduced to a third world country.
The only way to bring jobs back to the U.S. is to make it profitable to do so.
The reasons jobs go overseas are:
Massive and expensive enviromental restrictions and costs on U.S. businesses, which other countries do not have.
Excessive union wages that are out of line. Unions demanding ever increasing pay and benefits.
The US has the highest Capital gains tax rate in the world.
Make it profitable to do business here once again, and the jobs will come back. Simple. But the Democrats aren't going to let it happen, because they are in bed with the radical environmentalists, the Unions, and they are always opposed to tax cuts.
Soooo jobs will continue to go overseas, and I suspect that with the OB administration, many more will go.
1) Yesterday on the evening news, I saw the new trend - patients consulted by doctors over the Internet. Guess what - in a short time, health care insurance companies will realize that they can lower their cost with outsourcing. CT or MRI machines can be operated by technicians in the US (on H1-B visa) while doctors in India or China review the results. The same can be done for all medical tests and consultations. Its just a matter of time.
Yes, I have also read about remote control surgeries. The patient is on the operating table in US, and the surgeon is in Latin America and performs the surgery remotely. The cutting is taken place by robotic arms which the doctor operates with joysticks thousands of miles away. The robot arms leave very small cuts compared to old style surgery where the whole patient had to be opened up in order for the docs to have access to the places they need to heal.
And secondly the Indians and Thais have created a new industry. It is called medical tourism. The patients fly from US to tropical paradise resorts to have their operation, and then spend a few weeks relaxing and recovering at the pool or beach at the luxury resort. The real kicker is the fact that the whole operation/vacation is still way cheaper than having the operation done here in a regular US hospital. Even some insurance companies are happy to cover these trips because it saves them money. They do pretty much everything there from cosmetic nose-jobs to open heart surgeries.
Yes, I used to love the days when the programmer did it all. Now each person is given a tiny section or a task in the project life cycle and they repeat that same task over and over. They don't even need to know which project they are working on, because they always repeat the same task. Gone are the days where everyone was involved in everything, and knew everything about the product. This new approach made outsourcing possible. They were able to start sending certain sections/tasks of projects overseas. And then they sent more and more sections and now entire projects are done overseas. The knowledge base of US IT products is no longer in US, but in the mercy of foreigners, and that is a scary thought.
The funny thing is, there is so much time and money lost because the BA, QA, developer, project manager, are often incommunicative if not antogonistic towards each other, and with all the documents that each group has to write, a simple project such as a database revision could take 2 months nowadays, whereas in the past, my manager and myself could have knocked it out in 2 weeks.
Client-server systems are unreliable, and can take hours to run a job that an IBM mainframe could process in a couple of minutes. If we bring back the old mainframes and Cobol veterans we could save American businesses money, restore lost American jobs, and get back to the old, efficient, cost-saving model.
The funny thing is, there is so much time and money lost because the BA, QA, developer, project manager, are often incommunicative if not antogonistic towards each other, and with all the documents that each group has to write, a simple project such as a database revision could take 2 months nowadays, whereas in the past, my manager and myself could have knocked it out in 2 weeks.
Client-server systems are unreliable, and can take hours to run a job that an IBM mainframe could process in a couple of minutes. If we bring back the old mainframes and Cobol veterans we could save American businesses money, restore lost American jobs, and get back to the old, efficient, cost-saving model.
Not sure were you work, but in my area of software engineering (Aerospace) we rely heavily on mainframes, especially VAX Open VMS mainframes to run Fortran and C. Our business systems also run COBOL on CICS with IMS Databases.
If anything there is a rise in use of Mainframes since the .com boom. Large corporations want reliable transaction processors, not a fancy UI.
You know what though? This is easier to outsource...
Don't think for a second that Mainframes cannot be programmed from overseas via an emulator..I mean you know that mainframes require a terminal window to use...it is easy as 3.14159...
The funny thing is, there is so much time and money lost because the BA, QA, developer, project manager, are often incommunicative if not antogonistic towards each other, and with all the documents that each group has to write, a simple project such as a database revision could take 2 months nowadays, whereas in the past, my manager and myself could have knocked it out in 2 weeks.
This is very true. I deal with this every day, and our company is throwing millions of dollars out the window because they won't admit that oursourcing was a mistake. They still think it will pay off one day. Every enhancement request takes months to complete instead of days or weeks. And when it is done, there are errors due to miscommunications and misunderstandings.
We use AS/400s, as opposed to mainframe, but an AS/400 as be as big as a mainframe.
Not sure were you work, but in my area of software engineering (Aerospace) we rely heavily on mainframes, especially VAX Open VMS mainframes to run Fortran and C. Our business systems also run COBOL on CICS with IMS Databases.
If anything there is a rise in use of Mainframes since the .com boom. Large corporations want reliable transaction processors, not a fancy UI.
You know what though? This is easier to outsource...
Don't think for a second that Mainframes cannot be programmed from overseas via an emulator..I mean you know that mainframes require a terminal window to use...it is easy as 3.14159...
Healthcare. Of course, the outsourcing started with Cobol programmers from India, pre-Y2K. M point was, there are a lot of displaced senior Cobol programmers who would like to work, but there are no job openings, either because entire departments have been outsourced, or the company has replaced the mainframe with client server technology. Some of the companies return to the mainframe, when they see all the attendant issues, but the jobs still aren't available. Meanwhile, ex-Cobol programmers join the ranks of BA, QA or unemployed.
with proper respect to all the posters who responded. thank you.
the issue is work ethic. not pay and benefit package, a separate issue.
if your attitude smells like a skunk, i wont be talking to you about the pay and benefit package, the interview is over.
america has a work ethic problem.
denial is not a river in egypt.
dont get me wrong
i was born here a citizen
but the most vile woman of the streets in pigalle
has a better work ethic than many young americans.
America has a work ethic problem because they got tired of working harder and getting further behind (by local American standards).
The one out many of them took, the one that was supposed to work... "investment" (really speculation) just bit everyone's hiney.
How long can one go, hearing of the bazillions celebs, sports stars, Wall St. traders, etc. etc. make before they say, "F it, I work as hard as those people and am getting nothing like their quality of life."
So they do what socialism generally leads to. They reduce their efforts down to the perceived equity level.
In the end, you totally free markets aren't fair, unless you believe in law of the jungle and social darwinism, and socialism doesn't work because of the reduction of effort to get more problem. So the answer lies in finding the middle ground that is most effective. Something that prevents lions from eating everyone else, but motivates that bunnies to do something other than sit around eating grass, so to speak.
You do realize there is a nursing shortage and that is why we need to import nurses. Need a job become a nurse. AACN - Media - Nursing Shortage Fact Sheet
The United States is in the midst of a nursing shortage that is expected to intensify as baby boomers age and the need for health care grows. Compounding the problem is the fact that nursing colleges and universities across the country are struggling to expand enrollment levels to meet the rising demand for nursing care.
These imported nurses suck.
I just lost a family member to bed sore complications because some Haitian imports failed to keep up with the established protocols for turning individuals that are paralyzed.
Exactly, what people fail to understand is everything done on a computer can be outsourced. This is in addition to manufacturing.
So all these people who say globalization is here to stay we need to adapt cant come up with real solutions only these buzz words that get thrown around with no substance.
The reason they fail to realize it is that they were led to believe that we'd never sell out our competitive edge. That these "high paying white collar, thinking jobs" would stay domestic.
Riiiiight.
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