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Maybe it is time to stop using the Colorado River water for irrigating places like the Imperial Valley and retain it for supplying domestic uses in the cities of the southwest.
Great, lets see how the government can dictate less meat eating. I'm sure Barack and the liberals who voted for him support that....government making as many decisions as they can.
At the same time....I might go to Outback Steakhouse tomorrow....and Applebees has nice ribeyes, not like Outback's though....and Ruth Chris is to die for.
If you eat veggie burgers and it is not for religious reasons, you must be a hippie or a woman or you need to be a real man.
I eat..and have eaten veggie burgers for over fifty years as a vegan .. Because I want and need my body to perform at optimum level. Meat is unnecessary ..cruel..and wasteful...but the discussion is for another thread
California has to decide, do they want agriculture or a population that is too big to be sustained? And they also have to decide if they want to dry up or stop the influx of illegals to a region that simply can't handle them.
Sounds like if you're pro illegal, you're anti environment. Uh Oh, I just heard some liberals heads pop.
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Next easy question, please.
you might want to rethink that comment.. as they keep packing more and more people into the south west their will be more demand on
lake mead that's already at 39%..
you might want to rethink that comment.. as they keep packing more and more people into the south west their will be more demand on
lake mead that's already at 39%..
PHOENIX — Federal forecasters say a warm, dry February has increased the chances that Lake Mead will have a water shortage by 2018.
El Nino brought a snowy winter to the Rocky Mountains, but things dried up in February, reported The Arizona Republic. As a result, Lake Powell will likely only hold 80 percent of its long-term average amount of water by spring, according to the Colorado Basin River Forecast Center.
Lake Powell gathers most of the water that ultimately flows to Lake Mead.
"The snow conditions have not been so great," forecaster Greg Smith told water managers on Thursday, "and it was quite dry in February."
Much of the southwest is overpopulated given the access to resources there. This is just one of the reasons that immigration into the US, and especially the southwest via Mexico, be controlled.
you might want to rethink that comment.. as they keep packing more and more people into the south west their will be more demand on
lake mead that's already at 39%..
Phoenix has millions more people than it had 30 years ago and uses less water. People use less than agriculture and as farm fields have grown new homes, consumption has declined. In fact, Arizona does not even use all of its allotment but recharges groundwater aquifers with it saving it for future needs. Not only that but pretty much all domestic water gets reclaimed now for golf courses, landscape, cooling the nuke plant, or recharge. The popular conception of the southwest (I mean the Phoenix area) facing hard times for water is complete and utter nonsense. Someday it could come to pass, but if you want to worry about someone, worry about the plains states.
And on your Lake Meade thing. It ended up THIS year again being normal to above and the snow is still falling on the Rockies. We're good for several years on Lake Meade and that is all you can ever predict with any certainty.
Phoenix has millions more people than it had 30 years ago and uses less water. People use less than agriculture and as farm fields have grown new homes, consumption has declined. In fact, Arizona does not even use all of its allotment but recharges groundwater aquifers with it saving it for future needs. Not only that but pretty much all domestic water gets reclaimed now for golf courses, landscape, cooling the nuke plant, or recharge. The popular conception of the southwest (I mean the Phoenix area) facing hard times for water is complete and utter nonsense. Someday it could come to pass, but if you want to worry about someone, worry about the plains states.
And on your Lake Meade thing. It ended up THIS year again being normal to above and the snow is still falling on the Rockies. We're good for several years on Lake Meade and that is all you can ever predict with any certainty.
That is a very optimistic assessment, the reality is that Lake Mead has some severe problems. Phoenix has been well ahead of other south western areas including California but population growth in a desert or dry area certainly has it's limits. Places like Phoenix and Las Vegas have used water as if their is an unlimited supply, they never should have built cities of that size in an area with few water resources.
Water above ground and water below ground need to be treated as one source, continuously relying on mountain run off to deal with explosive growth is recipe for disaster and it has arrived.
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Three years ago, state hydrologists in the Colorado River Basin began to do some modeling to see what the future of Lake Mead — the West’s largest reservoir — might look like. If the dry conditions continued, elevations in Lake Mead, which is fed by the Colorado River, could drop much faster than previous models predicted. For decades, the West’s big reservoirs were like a security blanket, says Anne Castle, the former assistant secretary for water and science at the Interior Department. But the blanket is wearing thin. Under normal conditions, Lake Mead loses 1.2 million acre-feet of water every year to evaporation and deliveries to the Lower Basin states plus Mexico, which amounts to a 12-foot drop
lake mead is at 46% of it's capacity or 118 feet below the maximum capacity elavation january 2009.... do you realy think lake mead is going to go dry??
There will be many water problems around the US and the rest of the world. The Ogalala Aquafir is being depleted by irrigation in Nebraska, Kansas. Colorado, South Dakota, and Oklahoma. Those lands, which are involved in agriculture currently,may need to abandon widespread ag in these areas.
I like where I live. We ahve a vibrant economy and more water than we know what to do with.
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