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Really? What tax cut was that? Was it the $8 per week?
::Yawn::
Your ranting and doom-and-gloom scenarios do not help your cause (or your credibility).
If it makes you feel better to view the recent tax cuts at $8/week, by all means go ahead. I prefer the bigger-picture scenario that says my husband and I will pay $800/year less in taxes. Same difference. I just don't choose to divide the yearly sum by 50, in a thinly-veiled attempt to make the overall tax advantage seem meager and irrelevant.
Evidently, you have an issue with recognizing/admitting/comprehending that Obama recently entitled you to an additional $400/year ($800/year if you're married). Too bad for you.
Your ranting and doom-and-gloom scenarios do not help your cause (or your credibility).
If it makes you feel better to view the recent tax cuts at $8/week, by all means go ahead. I prefer the bigger-picture scenario that says my husband and I will pay $800/year less in taxes. Same difference. I just don't choose to divide the yearly sum by 50, in a thinly-veiled attempt to make the overall tax advantage seem meager and irrelevant.
Evidently, you have an issue with recognizing/admitting/comprehending that Obama recently entitled you to an additional $400/year ($800/year if you're married). Too bad for you.
What "doom and gloom"? You mean that other taxes both backdoor and direct are going up? Is that the "doom and gloom" you're talking about? Please clarify...
It seems to me that focusing on just the $8 a week (or if it makes you happy $800 a year) is a bit myopic and is far from the "big picture" or should we just be real happy that we're not at a 70% tax rate and not complain?
Take off the bifocals and put on the long range glasses and look again you may not like what you see...
What "doom and gloom"? You mean that other taxes both backdoor and direct are going up? Is that the "doom and gloom" you're talking about?
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. EXACTLY which taxes (both backdoor and direct) are going up? How much, exactly, are they going up by? Exactly when are they going up? Exactly whose taxes will go up? Please don't give me a bunch of right-wing whiners contemplating *possible* tax increases. Please provide solid and credible sources (from either/both sides) to substantiate your claims that taxes are definitely, without a doubt, going to increase, which would cancel out Obama's recent tax cuts of $400/year per individual and $800/year for married couples.
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It seems to me that focusing on just the $8 a week (or if it makes you happy $800 a year) is a bit myopic and is far from the "big picture" or should we just be real happy that we're not at a 70% tax rate and not complain?
Focusing on the $800 LESS my husband and I will be paying next year for our taxes is short-sighted? Are you kidding? What a stupid comment. That's an average of $75/month throughout the year. That's a monthly cell phone bill. Obama just gave me a tax cut that essentially covers my cell phone bill for the entire year. So, you can continue to look at it as $8/week. I prefer to look at it in terms that make sense to the majority of the population. I made a good salary, and I still think $800 is nothing to sneeze at.
If Obama didn't give you the tax cut he promised all of us during his campaign, you'd be complaining that he owes you the $400/800 he promised.
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Originally Posted by jimj
Take off the bifocals and put on the long range glasses and look again you may not like what you see...
I've got a long way to go before I require bifocals. Furthermore, I'm very happy with Obama's performance/plans thus far. I think this whole mess is all gonna be worked out over time, thanks to him. I think that whining and focusing on doom and gloom scenarios are a pointless waste of time, especially in the situation we're all in right now. But, to each his own...
Nice job screwing up the tea bag threads. Now no earnest question will get answered in 166pages of Blahhhh. They merged 3 in one, all different aspects, as if this weren't complicated enough. Partisan push to squash the thread.
Nice job screwing up the tea bag threads. Now no earnest question will get answered in 166pages of Blahhhh. They merged 3 in one, all different aspects, as if this weren't complicated enough. Partisan push to squash the thread.
Tea Party Rallies: They are like white collar Job Fairs.
None of that militant, grungy, long haired, bearded, Birkenstock-wearing crowd that dominated the headlines when Bush was in office. Only one arrest so far, and it was a woman protesting against the rally, who was arrested after trying to drive an old man off the road who was carrying a Tea Party sign.
Another thing - why did so many parents being their kids to these rallies? This is an amazing break from the past, when rallies were almost exclusively dominated by the college/youth crowd. Did parents want to teach their kids how to properly protest? Or did bringing their offspring to the tea parties have greater significance, like the reality of Obama's crushing debt that he will leave on today's youth?
I also liked the ethos of many of these rallies: "Am I paying your taxes"???
I did not attend a Tea Party. I never considered attending.
I do know several people that did attend. They consist of an age range from 26 to 71. They are white and black. They are all middle class with no one person making over 60,000 a year. One family did take their children with the intent to show the kids that everyone DOES have a voice in the USA.
The debt that is being imposed upon us is not the making of Obama alone. Bush, Clinton and the congress all have had their hands in this mess.
Another thing - why did so many parents being their kids to these rallies? This is an amazing break from the past, when rallies were almost exclusively dominated by the college/youth crowd. Did parents want to teach their kids how to properly protest? Or did bringing their offspring to the tea parties have greater significance, like the reality of Obama's crushing debt that he will leave on today's youth?
I also liked the ethos of many of these rallies: "Am I paying your taxes"???
1. They're stupid. These are adult activities. I do not believe in using children as political pawns.
2. They're unemployed (and collecting taxpayer funded unemployment) and couldn't afford a babysitter.
3. They don't care about their kids' educations and pulled them out of school.
None of that militant, grungy, long haired, bearded, Birkenstock-wearing crowd that dominated the headlines when Bush was in office. Only one arrest so far, and it was a woman protesting against the rally, who was arrested after trying to drive an old man off the road who was carrying a Tea Party sign.
Another thing - why did so many parents being their kids to these rallies? This is an amazing break from the past, when rallies were almost exclusively dominated by the college/youth crowd. Did parents want to teach their kids how to properly protest? Or did bringing their offspring to the tea parties have greater significance, like the reality of Obama's crushing debt that he will leave on today's youth?
I also liked the ethos of many of these rallies: "Am I paying your taxes"???
The rally in my area was almost entirely populated by retired people. I.e. the ones taking OUT of the system, not those putting in.
Lots of rallies have lots of kids, anti gun, anti abortion you name it. Agree with the other poster though, using kids as pawns is a pretty sad way to make a statement.
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Please clarify... 
Boy, are you ever delusional, who's yelling? Living in a bubble? Getting smaller and smaller right...
Tea Party Rallies: They are like white collar Job Fairs.
