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Old 04-04-2009, 04:36 AM
 
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This has been IMO a long overdue question. So many conservatives want to rant about "Liberal Lies," things that liberals proclaim to rally and support, but secretly despise. But usually, these are mostly upset NeoCons who are still going all emo about November 4th. Now let me go on an actual contradiction that I have literally witnessed time after time: dealings with race relations!

Did I pull a nerve yet? Well let me explain. Where I am right now, almost everyone I talk to who's "liberal" speaks and brags about the need for "multiculturalism" and "diversity," making these as indicators of "progress." Given that these factors may help, many times, these same people make it as if those are the only things needed for amiable race relations. But that's just the beginning of my grievances. Another thing is that many of these "Liberals" tend to speak about being "open to meeting new people," but at the end of the day, they either go to their white enclaves in some typical preppy-breeding suburb, or if they do interact with people of different races, it's usually South Indians or Asians (or in the "really progressive places," everyone but blacks and Latinos, especially the males - and I'm not talking about avoiding the stereotypical ones either). Also, why is it that these liberals who are "so open to dialogue" are the ones who are the most "nervous" about answering questions pertaining to race relations, or better yet, the ones who literally run away from answering the questions? And, given the educational level of many of these liberals, why is it that liberals want to picture the negative aspects of blacks/Latinos (street gangs, modern-day rap, single mothers, Ebonics, ghettos/barrios, illegal immigrating, poverty, you know the rest) as "their culture" yet they seem to either fail to see (or deny the fact) that blacks and Hispanics are NOT monolithic creatures who speak/eat/listen/talk/live the same way! This leads me to the sweetest question of them all. As for blacks and Latinos who fit into the stereotype (i.e. act their "race" or for a lack of a better term, stay in their place), liberals tend to be "more comfortable" and "less threatened" by those kind of people, which is ironic. Yet when a non-stereotypical black or Latino person does his damnedest to improve his standard of living by getting an education and NOT taking in handouts or other social programs, or if the black/Latino person is smart, intellectual, or worldly, why is it that liberals tend to hold the most angst and bitterness towards them, and treat them like the criminals instead of the paragon of their race/community? Isn't that the reason why all of those liberals risked their lives going to the South during the sixties. Or was there some other ulterior motive to it (to **** off southerners, to have blacks vote democrat for the "next 200 years," etc.)

So answer me this question: why is it that many of you liberals try to shove the talk of "diversity" and "multiculturalism" down everyone's throats, but the second all of you are faced with situations when you can interact with a person from a "Non-Asian" minority group, you cut and run, or act all anal about it?

And PS: If any of you liberals deny to answer this question (or if I or this post mysteriously vanishes), this just proves my point of running from what I see as the TRUTH!
Because, like all people (conservatives included) we get fearful and become hypocritical.

We can at least try to do better. Or would you rather see no effort at all?

Here's a good question for you. Why are you generalizing all liberals in one group? There are exceptions to every rule as you are trying to argue now. People should be judged by their actions, but should also be forgiven for their mistakes, correct?
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Old 04-04-2009, 04:59 AM
 
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And PS: If any of you liberals deny to answer this question (or if I or this post mysteriously vanishes), this just proves my point of running from what I see as the TRUTH!
Pretty pompous and presumptious thing to say - and you probably don't even realize it...

Who would want to lower themselves to respond to the pathetic diatribe in your OP???
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Old 04-04-2009, 05:20 AM
 
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Starts when you're always afraid. Step out of line, the man come and take you away.


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Step out of line ...
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Old 04-04-2009, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Earth
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"Only problem with Socialism is......sooner or later you run out of other peoples money"
You've used this quote in what, half of a dozen threads now.
Any thoughts of your own?

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I'm in no way defending nor standing up for conservatives!
But you are.
The fact that you started a thread with "To All Liberals: I'm calling all of you out!" is in itself supporting the opposite point of view.
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Old 04-04-2009, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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You have to understand Fairfaxian lives in "white bread" country. More rabid raccoons than there are black families. Home of anti-immigrant pogroms. They with neighboring Price William County are the laughing stock of the metropolitan area.
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Old 04-04-2009, 08:14 AM
 
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Yow! OP, I hope you got some sleep and calmed down....

A little off point but it's nice that you acknowledge that it was exclusively progressives - not reactionaries - who "risked their lives by going down South in the sixties." Although you followed that with a paranoid rant.... but it's good to see some facts you all havent tried to spin. Yet.
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Old 04-04-2009, 08:16 AM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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I would rather be the laughing stock of the metro area than the laughing stock of the entire country. re-elect any mayors who were caught on video smoking crack with a hooker lately?

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You have to understand Fairfaxian lives in "white bread" country. More rabid raccoons than there are black families. Home of anti-immigrant pogroms. They with neighboring Price William County are the laughing stock of the metropolitan area.
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Old 04-04-2009, 08:20 AM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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as of 2004, fairfax county was 60% white. I guess you are ignoring all the brown families that live there. 16% asian, 12.5% hispanic (which by now is probably 20%), 9% black, and about 3% other. so are you saying that minorities that aren't black don't count?

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You have to understand Fairfaxian lives in "white bread" country. More rabid raccoons than there are black families. Home of anti-immigrant pogroms. They with neighboring Price William County are the laughing stock of the metropolitan area.
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Old 04-04-2009, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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I would rather be the laughing stock of the metro area than the laughing stock of the entire country. re-elect any mayors who were caught on video smoking crack with a hooker lately?
You are one of those very confused individuals. Adrian Fenty, our mayor, has never smoked crack.
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Old 04-04-2009, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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as of 2004, fairfax county was 60% white. I guess you are ignoring all the brown families that live there. 16% asian, 12.5% hispanic (which by now is probably 20%), 9% black, and about 3% other. so are you saying that minorities that aren't black don't count?
Source for those statistics? The Census Bureau disagrees
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