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Moderator, please note: This is intended as a historical, non-religious note to help guide forum members. It is not intended as a religious post. Because of the political consequences of faith in America, I believe it is important to this category.
To the average person who has no clue what a BAPTIST is, let me define as I believe what BAPTIST means. First of all, every Baptist congregation is independent from ALL OTHER Baptist congregations. Many Baptists do join in with other similar thinking Baptists to organize churches, seminaries, mission teams, and support departments such as architectural assistance, pension funds for ministers, etc. The individual is the key here.
While the Holy Bible is the primary guide, Southern Baptists (second only to Roman Catholics in American membership) bind themselves together in similar faith based on a set of stated beliefs called "The Baptist Faith & Message"(BFM).
The BFM never requires an individual, a congregation, or statewide association of churches to compromise their beliefs. For example, some congregations elect and ordain women as ministers, while others get angry at the very thought of electing a woman for any leadership position. How the individual and respective congregations interpret their faith is up to them.
As such, there are rumors abounding of "off the wall" Baptist beliefs. So saying you were raised Baptist can be painting with a wide-wide brush.
The most common group called "baptists" today are Southern Baptists who broke off from the American Baptists because the American Baptist Conference dared to say that blacks were equal to whites. The southerners refused to accept this and continued with their racial hatred. Most honest people would admit that, abet lessened, this racial antagonism remains at the heart of Southern Baptism today. It's a disgusting regressive organization which is a blight on this country.
The most common group called "baptists" today are Southern Baptists who broke off from the American Baptists because the American Baptist Conference dared to say that blacks were equal to whites. The southerners refused to accept this and continued with their racial hatred. Most honest people would admit that, abet lessened, this racial antagonism remains at the heart of Southern Baptism today. It's a disgusting regressive organization which is a blight on this country.
I will be sure to tell my friends, who happen to attend a Southern Baptist church here in MO and about 1/3 of the congregation is black. You really need to get up to speed and get educated because what you posted is nothing but BS.
The most common group called "baptists" today are Southern Baptists who broke off from the American Baptists because the American Baptist Conference dared to say that blacks were equal to whites. The southerners refused to accept this and continued with their racial hatred. Most honest people would admit that, abet lessened, this racial antagonism remains at the heart of Southern Baptism today. It's a disgusting regressive organization which is a blight on this country.
Until 1964 my family was Methodist. When the Methodists printed the Sunday School literature one month they featured a black family.
My entire family became Southern Baptist two weeks later. I remember it well. I shed the SBs years ago and haven't missed them a bit.
You can change laws, but you cannot change hearts with laws.
Until 1964 my family was Methodist. When the Methodists printed the Sunday School literature one month they featured a black family.
My entire family became Southern Baptist two weeks later. I remember it well. I shed the SBs years ago and haven't missed them a bit.
You can change laws, but you cannot change hearts with laws.
And they shouldn't try to change hearts with laws. It is ignorant, to say the least. If people want to be racist, then they should have that right, as long as it doesn't infringe on your rights. People need to get over it and stop trying to bully others into their way of thought.
And they shouldn't try to change hearts with laws. It is ignorant, to say the least. If people want to be racist, then they should have that right, as long as it doesn't infringe on your rights. People need to get over it and stop trying to bully others into their way of thought.
Are you defending racism on a thread about Baptists?
Are you defending racism on a thread about Baptists?
I am defending the constitution. If a person wants to be a racist then that person has that right, as long as it does not infringe on someone elses rights. I also defend anyone to have the religion of their choice. Myself, I am not a Baptist at all, though I am Christian. Where I live now, Baptists are a goodly majority, along with the Asembly of God religion, which is much more fundamental than any Baptist.
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I will be sure to tell my friends, who happen to attend a Southern Baptist church here in MO and about 1/3 of the congregation is black. You really need to get up to speed and get educated because what you posted is nothing but BS.
Ignorance is exactly how I would describe both you and your posts. Google Rev McKissic; he was one of the only black Reverends in the Southern Baptist Convention and after he pointed out that the highest ranking person to directly work for the Southern Baptist Convention was a janitor he was subjected to verbal racial attacks from one of his fell seminarians. Of course, like they always do, the perpetrator latter claimed he didn't know his derogatory racial defamation was racist. Rev McKissic resigned shortly after these events; Southern Baptists as an organisation aren't just white but they are OVERWHELMINGLY white. Like in the 90% range white with more of that last 10% made up of Asians and Hispanics then blacks. You might wonder why so many blacks refuse to join or are excluded from the southern baptists even though they have been in the south just as long as whites; could it be that they see the racism and know what's actually at work?
Here is a blog entry I would like you to read. My own take on events would be much harsher but this is written by a dire hard conservative and a practicing Southern Baptist yet even he finds racism to be a worrying presence in Southern Baptism. Read it and maybe you'll learn something for once.
The BFM never requires an individual, a congregation, or statewide association of churches to compromise their beliefs.
In theory. But the SBC has done a great deal of "requiring" under Mohler's leadership.
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Rev McKissic resigned shortly after these events; Southern Baptists as an organisation aren't just white but they are OVERWHELMINGLY white. Like in the 90% range white with more of that last 10% made up of Asians and Hispanics then blacks. You might wonder why so many blacks refuse to join or are excluded from the southern baptists even though they have been in the south just as long as whites; could it be that they see the racism and know what's actually at work?
