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Old 05-03-2009, 08:35 PM
 
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WOW!
GREAT POINTS!
I will for sure use this in my debates from now on.
Try using these ones too when talking to "pro-life" people:
- Are you pro-war?
- Do you support free health care for children?

 
Old 05-03-2009, 10:24 PM
 
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That's the problem. When life begins is only an opinion, and everyone's is different.

That life begins at conception is a religious belief, not scientific fact.

False.

Actually life begins before conception (scientific fact). My eggs are living cells in my body. However individual life begins at conception. Sperm and egg fuse to create something genetically different then both parents..thus new life. ...The question isn't "when does life start?" that is clear from science..the question is "when does life become important enough to be protected?" Spiders...ants...trees... they are all alive...they are all life but we kill them all the time, so if it is or is not life really isn't the deciding factor on if abortions should or should not be performed.
 
Old 05-03-2009, 10:30 PM
 
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Sorry, animals are here for our pleasure. My thread isn't for loony stuff like "animals are equal to humans". Go elsewhere for that.

If my cuddly, barking, very active dog is not equal to me, then my friends 2 celled zygote certainly isn't either. Also any proof that animals are here for our pleasure, or did you decide that because it's convenient for you?
 
Old 05-04-2009, 07:41 AM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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1) It is ludicrous to compare the value of animal to that of human life.
2) By that logic, God "kills" everybody, therefore God is evil. Move on, please.
Could you please explain to me how other animals are not as important as human beings?
The whole structure of human life depends on the eco system. All "animals" have their place in making the balance we need to survive.
ALL animals, including humans, evolved. We are all interlinked.
It is extremely stupid to think that other animals are less important than Humans. Killing is Killing. Taking a life is taking a life...no matter what animal.
Yes, you are right, God kills everybody eventually... so don't use him to make a "pro-life" argument.
 
Old 05-04-2009, 10:59 AM
 
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"An embryo can't become an adult human on its own"
Neither can a one-year-old. Come with a point or move on.
 
Old 05-04-2009, 11:02 AM
 
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Could you please explain to me how other animals are not as important as human beings?

I'm sorry. I'm not going to Kook Land with you. Go to the Tree Hugger Whacko forum for that conversation.

The whole structure of human life depends on the eco system. All "animals" have their place in making the balance we need to survive.
ALL animals, including humans, evolved. We are all interlinked.
It is extremely stupid to think that other animals are less important than Humans. Killing is Killing. Taking a life is taking a life...no matter what animal.
Yes, you are right, God kills everybody eventually... so don't use him to make a "pro-life" argument.
Let's all sing Kum-Bay-Yah around the campfire.
 
Old 05-04-2009, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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and. . . . E. never did answer my query about all of the "natural" abortions that occur. . . More than 1/2 of all the potential pregnancies, if i am correct. . . god must be "pro-abortion", especially for those fetus' that are less than physically perfect!
 
Old 05-04-2009, 11:49 AM
 
Location: here
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and. . . . E. never did answer my query about all of the "natural" abortions that occur. . . More than 1/2 of all the potential pregnancies, if i am correct. . . god must be "pro-abortion", especially for those fetus' that are less than physically perfect!
I asked... he wants to have funerals for them.
 
Old 05-04-2009, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I asked... he wants to have funerals for them.
Such empathy! I am impressed. . .
 
Old 05-04-2009, 04:50 PM
 
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and. . . . E. never did answer my query about all of the "natural" abortions that occur. . . More than 1/2 of all the potential pregnancies, if i am correct. . . god must be "pro-abortion", especially for those fetus' that are less than physically perfect!
I'm sorry. I can't respond to idiocy. Come at me with something serious.
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