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Old 05-04-2009, 11:50 AM
 
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. The people that do not have the money should pay far less or nothing because the system is not serving them but assuring their lowly status.
That's a huge load of baloney. People assure their OWN "lowly status". This is the freakin' US of A for pete's sake. If you're poor here, you aren't trying hard enough to improve yourself.
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Old 05-04-2009, 11:58 AM
 
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The issue is that a teacher who makes--if she/he's lucky--$50,000/year is in a 28% tax bracket, and probably has no write-offs. That 28% makes a significant difference for that teacher, in terms of quality of lifestyle. Someone who makes a half-million a year, with write-offs, may very well end up paying less in taxes than the teacher--and their quality of life is not affected.

To be rich and whine about having to pay more taxes--especially a measly 3% more--is to have no class. Only the crudely wealthy--generally, the newly wealthy--throw a fit about taxes.
Oh, the poor teacher. No write-offs? What about...um...the home mortgage...or gosh, maybe those "classes" they "must" take in the summer when they aren't working a 12 month a year job.

Glad you are against these loop-holes. Tax-cheat Timmay is on the case as we ponder!

And speaking of no class. I'm sure you are so very familiar with this.
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Old 05-04-2009, 12:04 PM
 
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Sharing the wealth will not harm us but the greed is good and what is mine is mine certainly will. What you call "balance" I consider to just be a "fair deal". The soviet Union was never a socialist economy but a mutant form of greed driven state kleptocracy driven by a nearly feudal ruling class. That it developed as far as it did is the astonishing.
And what you call a "fair deal" is what I call an excuse you're trying to sell yourself on that will allow you to be lazy and leech off others.

If you're so concerned about money, get good at something and make more.

Or is it you just don't want everyone else to have it because you're incapable of being successful?
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Old 05-04-2009, 12:05 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Why would you ask who can afford to pay what? Taxation is not about how much people can afford to pay. It's about how much people should be **forced** to pay. So, what is the answer to that?
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Old 05-04-2009, 12:12 PM
 
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And what you call a "fair deal" is what I call an excuse you're trying to sell yourself on that will allow you to be lazy and leech off others.
How would raising taxes on the rich result in me becoming "lazy?" My job duties are dictated by my employer, not the tax code. You're not making any sense.

I don't leech off of others, but if I did, that would be between me and them. Again, irrelevant to the tax code and nonsensical.

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If you're so concerned about money, get good at something and make more.
And I'll add, if any of you in the top bracket are so concerned about the tax rate, I'll gladly trade places with you. My $50k job for your $250k job. Whaddaya say?

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Or is it you just don't want everyone else to have it because you're incapable of being successful?
Oh yeah, that must be it.
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Old 05-04-2009, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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The issue is that a teacher who makes--if she/he's lucky--$50,000/year is in a 28% tax bracket, and probably has no write-offs. That 28% makes a significant difference for that teacher, in terms of quality of lifestyle. Someone who makes a half-million a year, with write-offs, may very well end up paying less in taxes than the teacher--and their quality of life is not affected.

To be rich and whine about having to pay more taxes--especially a measly 3% more--is to have no class. Only the crudely wealthy--generally, the newly wealthy--throw a fit about taxes.

Tell us what you make, and your expenses and let us decide how much more we think you can pay in taxes.
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Old 05-04-2009, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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I am doing my civic duty: I pay whatever tax I'm required to pay, and I don't act like a baby about it.
No...you just act like a baby about other people's finances.
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Old 05-05-2009, 02:48 PM
 
Location: The Planet Mars
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What percentage would you finally so, "okay, that's enough"?
THe point is - it's what the government says you should pay that matters - not what anyone on this forum says....

Tax rates have changed over the years - and will continue to...

Before Kennedy - I believe the top marginal rate was 90%...

Taxes have been lowered dramatically since then...

Now they are going up (for those making over 200k individual, 250k couple)..

If you don't like it, complain to your elected official...
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Old 05-05-2009, 03:13 PM
 
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No...you just act like a baby about other people's finances.
Weak.
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Old 05-05-2009, 03:24 PM
 
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How would raising taxes on the rich result in me becoming "lazy?" My job duties are dictated by my employer, not the tax code. You're not making any sense.

I don't leech off of others, but if I did, that would be between me and them. Again, irrelevant to the tax code and nonsensical.


And I'll add, if any of you in the top bracket are so concerned about the tax rate, I'll gladly trade places with you. My $50k job for your $250k job. Whaddaya say?


Oh yeah, that must be it.
If you want to make more money, work for it. Nobody should feel sorry for you because you don't make enough. The majority of the wealthy have worked very hard for their money and have created tons of jobs.

The people that want the rich to pay more are envious and feel that people should pay more, just because they can, regardless of how hard they worked.

It's pathetic and it's nothing more than class envy.

Just don't p*** and moan when you're fired because your boss has to pay higher taxes and can't turn a profit anymore.
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