Why is ACLU so interested? (Iraq, legal, poll, Baghdad)

[plannine]

Originally Posted by ELOrocks17

Not constitutional rights..

Yes, illegal aliens have some constitutional rights. (and the bill of rights applies to them as well)

[saganista]

Originally Posted by ELOrocks17

Not constitutional rights..

Try again. The government is vested with certain powers. Those powers cannot compromise the rights of anyone. In certain cases, the Constitution does use the word "citizen". It does not however appear anywhere within the Bill of Rights.

[ramanboy33]

Originally Posted by ELOrocks17

Not constitutional rights..

Non-citizens do have some constitutional rights - not all of them though. The issue is very complex, and there have been many court cases relevant to the issue.

Yick Wo v. Hopkins (1886) is a great decision to start your research. The US Supreme Court basically said that the protections of the 14 Amendment apply to all, not just US citizens.

[ELOrocks17]

Originally Posted by saganista

Try again. The government is vested with certain powers. Those powers cannot compromise the rights of anyone. In certain cases, the Constitution does use the word "citizen". It does not however appear anywhere within the Bill of Rights.

Maybe we should change it from "the constitution of the United States" to "the constitution of the world".

[ramanboy33]

Originally Posted by ELOrocks17

Maybe we should change it from "the constitution of the United States" to "the constitution of the world".

It's really an issue of fairness and moral consistency (throw in the Golden Rule if you want - I certainly view it that way).

All PEOPLE, who, for whatever reason, find themselves subject to US legal jurisdiction or action should be afforded the same rights and processes.

[saganista]

Originally Posted by ELOrocks17

Maybe we should change it from "the constitution of the United States" to "the constitution of the world".

Maybe people who think of themselves as being the true Americans should actually learn what the founding documents of that country actually say and what they actually mean. You won't be getting any of that at some Tea Party, by the way...

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by plannine

They have also come to the aid of His Majesty, The Rush Man.

Yeah and NAMBLA - the National Association of the Man Boy Love Assn

[Sonrise]

Originally Posted by saganista

The incidence of such suits could be reduced dramatically if Americans would less regularly violate the rights of undocumented immigrants.

Illegal aliens. They broke the law, hence the illegal part. its the ACLU, not the IACLU.

[ELOrocks17]

Originally Posted by Sonrise

Illegal aliens. They broke the law, hence the illegal part. its the ACLU, not the IACLU.

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Thanks, I am glad you pointing out that PC garbage

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by saganista

....rights of undocumented immigrants.

We call them what they are - Illegal Immigrants. They are in this country Illegally.

Hope this clears up what apparently your misunderstanding of the name.