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Old 05-28-2009, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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"La pureza esta en la mezcla".

My family is proud of our mix. We range from as dark as a dark African-American, to as light complected as a full white person. The youngest generation of my family is completely mixed, kids of every shade.

My family came to this country as "low class Mexicans", but our family is very diverse. Mexicans of all shades, with some Filipinos and Indians(from India) and Blacks and Whites married in there making that youngest generation so mixed.

En lo puro, no hay futuro, la pureza esta en la mezcla.
There are always exceptions, and apparently your family is one.
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Old 05-28-2009, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Wouldn't you agree the views of Blacks as inferior is worldwide? From Japan to Europe to America to Latin America?
Why do you act like it's unique to Mexicans?
While a white elite dominates Mexico like most places in the world, there isn't much (falsely perceived) purity in Mexico like there is in other places.

I don't believe there is truly a "pure race" anywhere, but it's pretty obvious there isn't much in Mexico.
Classism based on complexion is pretty common worldwide. Even among the African-American community itself.
Apparently you didn't notice what I said.


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It is no secret that Blacks have historically been considered by many as being THE inferior race. Thus, it is not surprising that Koreans or anyone else would be prejudiced when moving to this country. The behavior of some ignorant ghetto Blacks only reinforces it.

Mexican illegal aliens are racist toward blacks due to their indoctrination. It doesn’t matter that they themselves have been discriminated against in Mexico; it’s ingrained.
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Old 05-28-2009, 09:38 PM
 
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There are always exceptions, and apparently your family is one.
There's more than enough exceptions to keep it from being a rule.
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Old 05-28-2009, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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There's more than enough exceptions to keep it from being a rule.
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It turns out that racism in Mexico, both against blacks and dark-skinned indigenous Indians, has a long history. Mexico's colonial past has left its mark on modern-day society. Prejudice toward "pureblood" Indians from those who are "mixed-blood" (Spanish and Indian) is rife. Almost uniformly, people who are darker-skinned and of Indian descent make up the peasantry and working classes, while lighter-skinned, Spanish-descent Mexicans are in the ruling elite. Fox himself comes from that background, as his appearance makes evident.

This inequality may explain in part why the majority of immigrants coming into the United States fall into the darker-skinned category. Beyond the failure of the Mexican government to sustain a decent economy, darker-skinned Mexicans have a difficult time getting work because of job discrimination. According to the Web site IndigenousPeople.net, "sixty percent of Indians over 12 years of age are already unemployed, and of those who work, most earn less than the minimum wage of about $2.50 a day." The same story notes that Mexico City's top restaurants don't allow patrons to bring along Indian domestic workers for fear of tarnishing their business image.
Racism Rears Its Ugly Head in Mexico (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2005/08/03/cstillwell.DTL - broken link)

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Unfortunately, most Mexicans deny they practice racism because most people still view racism as primarily a White/Black issue. It also stands true that most Mexicans who live in Mexico have been so accustomed to using nicknames like Negrito (blackey), Negro (black), Moreno (brown), Indio (Indian) and Güero (blond or white), that they do not view it as an offense.

It is common to hear people say, “Trabajo como negro para vivir como blanco.” (I work like a Black man to live like a White man); “Indio recien bajado del cero.” (Indian who just came down from the mountains); or to hear people call women who work as domestic help “muchacha” (girl), no matter what their age. After living in Mexico for more than 20 years, the worst comment I have ever heard has been if a darker skinned Mexican marries a lighter skinned or White Mexican, he is said to be “making the race better.” (Estoy mejorando la raza.) Unfortunately, most Mexicans do not realize that they have inherited and have passed on, from one generation to the next, the racist ideals of White Spanish conquerors.
Racism in Mexico?

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Although we constantly complain about the increasing racism, discrimination and poverty that Hispanics face in the USA, Indigenous Mexicans suffer the same problems in Mexico.

In a nation devoted to celebrating its Indian heritage, the terrible irony is that Indians are despised. "Don't behave like an Indian," are common sentences heard among the white mestizo (person of mixed race or blood, specifically a person of mixed European and Indian) and the criollo (direct Spanish descendants) families. The Indians are despised for their physical appearance, their poverty, and their language. Racism enters every criollo and mestizo family, defining the value and the place of the children according to their color. The darkest one may become the outsider, while the fair-skinned one is a prize.

In Mexico, two different worlds exist, the world of the white and rich population and the world of the indigenous. The Indians have been excluded from the privileges that the white population in Mexico have. They have been abused, attacked, neglected and forgotten during the last 100 years.

Today, the indigenous population continues to face systematic discrimination in the public and private sectors, and remains largely outside the country's political and economic mainstream. Extreme poverty disproportionately affects indigenous segments of the population, particularly in the province of Chiapas, where conflict between a national liberation movement and authorities has raged since 1994.
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Old 05-28-2009, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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And to run with Benicar's ball further: this was sent to me by a Mexican friend of mine:

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There is an inferiority complex dating back to the days of the conquest and subsequen Spanish colonization. The Spaniards themselves refered to the Arabs as Moors, "Moros" in Spanish which means "dark-skinned". A black eye in one's face in Spanish Spanish is "ojo moro", in Mexican Spanish is "ojo morado" or "violet eye".

The Spanish conquest in Mexico was successfull on three counts: first, the locals had never seen horses before and thought that horse and rider were one being, and the second, the Aztecs managed to be hated by everyone else, as they subjugated a number of other nations under them to build their empire. These nations allied with the Spaniards to topple the Aztecs, but alas, the Spaniards' plans were different. Third, the Spaniards brought with them smallpox, which decimated the local population during an epidemic that was second to none in Europe; millions perished.

The first "mestizos" were born when Hernán Cortés himself had a child with Malintzin or "La Malinche", his interpreter. A couple of Spanish sailors that came with Columbus were stranded in the Yucatán peninsula when Cortés came to Mexico, and they had already had children with Mayan women. Cortés' child was the first kid from a European father and an Aztec mother. Soon a number of "mestizo" kids were born and thus the Mexican nation was born with them. The Spaniards treated them badly, as "hijos de la chingada" which is the worst offense you can make to a Mexican, because "la chingada" means "the raped woman", which indeed was the destiny of many Native Mexican women during the three centuries that the Spanish colonial period lasted.

Mexican society was divided in castes which determined the socio-political and economic level of the people: first, there were the Europeans, mostly Spaniards, who had all the wealth, government positions (conveniently far from Spain, they could loot the country at will) and were the entrepreneurs and landowners. Some among them were nobles too and were styled counts or dukes or barons. Then came the "criollos" or creoles, the children of European fathers and mothers born in Mexico. Then came the "mestizos", as explained above, and a host of others like the "mulatos", children of a white father and a black mother, as we did have slaves from Africa too, but not to the extent of the USA.

The "mestizos" were way below in the food chain, most were children of single mothers and were not recognized by their fathers. Last names or family names had to be given when the kids were baptized, and since the mothers didn't know the last name of the fathers of their children, they used his first name as the kids' last name. The "mestizos" were the children of the powerful, exploiting European father and the subjugated, powerless, raped Mexican mother.

This is how the Mexican inferiority complex was born, and this is why the country is white supremacist, as another poster has adequately described it.
Mexico's sordid tale.
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Old 05-28-2009, 09:56 PM
 
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Here in California when I see a Mexican woman involved in an interracial relationship, most of the time it is with a Black guy and not a White guy. Especially if the Mexican chick is ghetto than she will definitely be into Black guys. Mexican women do not have a fetish for White guys the way many Asian women do. So most of the anti-Black feelings that comes from the Mexican community must be predominantly coming from the Mexican men, because I see way too many Black male/Mexican female couples here in Cali. I have never heard of a Black guy being turned down by a Mexican woman because she says she refuses to date Black men. But I have heard of cases of Mexican women who say they would never date a White guy.
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Old 05-28-2009, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Here in California when I see a Mexican woman involved in an interracial relationship, most of the time it is with a Black guy and not a White guy. Especially if the Mexican chick is ghetto than she will definitely be into Black guys. Mexican women do not have a fetish for White guys the way many Asian women do. So most of the anti-Black feelings that comes from the Mexican community must be predominantly coming from the Mexican men, because I see way too many Black male/Mexican female couples here in Cali. I have never heard of a Black guy being turned down by a Mexican woman because she says she refuses to date Black men. But I have heard of cases of Mexican women who say they would never date a White guy.
Considering the racism against blacks in Mexico, this is quite surprising.
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Old 05-28-2009, 10:52 PM
 
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YOU are the one who's grasping and there ain't even a straw in sight! You utterly FAIL to in any way associate these LA gangs with any organization Sotomayor belongs to so other than attempting to satisfy your seemingly insatiable need to whine your point would be ???????????????????


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Old 05-28-2009, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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If this country can support such groups as Daughters of the American Revolution and Sons of the Confederacy, there should be no double standard about Judge Sotomayor's membership in La Raza.
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Old 05-28-2009, 10:59 PM
 
Location: east coast
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Default not for long

She will change her mind and vote as Obama wants her to . She will be his puppet since he put her there.

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La Raza is a VERY racist organization! Sonia Sotomayor would fit right in. There is one plus about her. She is against abortion. It might be a good thing to have another supreme court judge that is PRO LIFE.
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