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Old 06-11-2009, 11:42 AM
 
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Are there any right-wing kooks according to you? Or are you making the claim that all kooks are left-wing?
Of course there are, was this your attempt to dispute again?

 
Old 06-11-2009, 11:43 AM
 
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Of course there are, was this your attempt to dispute again?
I'm just trying to figure out who the right-wing kooks are.
 
Old 06-11-2009, 11:44 AM
 
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What is your problem?! Stop with your persecution complex. My original response was to your comment that the shooter was leftist. Hard core white supremacists aren't what most people would identify as right or left. They tend to be anarchists, who want to set up a different country than what we have now. Based on what we know of the shooter and his discourse, he certainly reinforces this.
Your right, whats my problem, I shouldnt have any darn problem with liberals calling a left wing kook who ran around killing people as "right wing" even though there isnt one darn bit of evidence to support an argument.

Then when I disputed that he wasnt "right wing" that he was left wing, you get all defensive, and now your claiming he wasnt right or left wing...

The question is, WHATS YOUR PROBLEM, why are you so defensive? If you claim I shoudlnt be defensive over being classified with a kook then neither should you...
 
Old 06-11-2009, 11:45 AM
 
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lol guess thats a good explanation. It's just so mind boggling!
So are diagnostic monitors of OBDII compliant vehicles until you take the time to find out what's really going on. In both cases, nothing happens that isn't known beforehand. Find out why May 14, 1948 is such a special date.
 
Old 06-11-2009, 11:46 AM
 
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I'm just trying to figure out who the right-wing kooks are.
I'd classify someone who lives seclusive in a compound with hundreds of guns, living in fear that the government is coming to take their "rights" away from them as a right wing kook.. The shooter in question, is far from right wing, and anyone who claims he is, hasnt read the shooters own threads and postings which exist on the internet.
 
Old 06-11-2009, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Your right, whats my problem, I shouldnt have any darn problem with liberals calling a left wing kook who ran around killing people as "right wing" even though there isnt one darn bit of evidence to support an argument.

Then when I disputed that he wasnt "right wing" that he was left wing, you get all defensive, and now your claiming he wasnt right or left wing...

The question is, WHATS YOUR PROBLEM, why are you so defensive? If you claim I shoudlnt be defensive over being classified with a kook then neither should you...
So your issue is that I didn't come to your defense, when you were fighting the good fight against the shooter being described as right wing? Oh, sorry. I thought that you were able to defend yourself. And once again, I never identified the shooter as right wing. Why do you keep insisting this? But regardless, you undermind your argument when you choose to just substitute 'right' for 'left.'
 
Old 06-11-2009, 11:59 AM
 
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So your issue is that I didn't come to your defense, when you were fighting the good fight against the shooter being described as right wing?
Actually, your the one that jumped into the conversation responding to something I said to someone else. Didnt ask for, or need your defense, just correcting the lies here that he was "right wing".
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once again, I never identified the shooter as right wing. Why do you keep insisting this? But regardless, you undermind your argument when you choose to just substitute 'right' for 'left.'
Yes you did, you can lie about it all you want but only the uneducated will believe you meant "white supremacists" to mean anything other than right wing. You now claim you meant someone middle of the road, not left or right, thats even more pathetic than your original response.
 
Old 06-11-2009, 12:06 PM
 
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do we really need to label him far right or left? his entire life his hatred ate him up like a cancer. his entire life was spent feeding his hate, growing his hate. it overwhelmed him and this was the result. this man was a sick old hateful one sided cold old murderous SOB this is the problem with any hate if you feed it. very sad that we have these groups and people that want to defend that way of thinking. there is no right in this type of hatred.
 
Old 06-11-2009, 12:06 PM
 
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Actually, your the one that jumped into the conversation responding to something I said to someone else. Didnt ask for, or need your defense, just correcting the lies here that he was "right wing".
So you did this by lying yourself? Not an ethical approach to argument, but possibly a means to be effective, though not in this case.

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Yes you did, you can lie about it all you want but only the uneducated will believe you meant "white supremacists" to mean anything other than right wing. You now claim you meant someone middle of the road, not left or right, thats even more pathetic than your original response.
Did you even read my first response to you? Quote where I even remotely implied this. You can't, because I didn't, nor would I. And, in fact, I included a quotation from an outside source that clearly delineated far-right, far-left, and white supremacists as clearly articulated and differentiated groups:
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"According to the Anti-Defamation League, anti-Semitic conspiracy theories blaming Jews and Israel for the terrorist attacks of September 11 continue to gain ground around the world, and are contributing to a new form of global anti-Semitism. The Anti-Defamation League has published papers[176][177] addressing these conspiracy theories. According to these reports, 9/11 conspiracy theories are increasingly popular among both left- and right-wing extremists, and among white supremacists, but have not gained mainstream acceptance in the West as they have in the Muslim world."
9/11 conspiracy theories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Perhaps you should think about why you soooo need your misguided accusations to be true.
 
Old 06-11-2009, 12:09 PM
 
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I'd classify someone who lives seclusive in a compound with hundreds of guns, living in fear that the government is coming to take their "rights" away from them as a right wing kook.. The shooter in question, is far from right wing, and anyone who claims he is, hasnt read the shooters own threads and postings which exist on the internet.
Are white supremacists left-wing or right-wing?
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