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1. Canada’s health care system is “socialized medicine.”
False. In socialized medical systems, the doctors work directly for the state. In Canada (and many other countries with universal care), doctors run their own private practices, just like they do in the US. The only difference is that every doctor deals with one insurer, instead of 150. And that insurer is the provincial government, which is accountable to the legislature and the voters if the quality of coverage is allowed to slide.
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HAMILTON — A critically-ill premature-born baby from Hamilton is all alone in a Buffalo, N.Y., hospital after she was turned away for treatment at local facility and transferred across the border without her parents, who don't have passports.
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A provincewide search for an open neonatal intensive care unit bed came up empty, leaving no choice but to send the two pound, four ounce baby to Buffalo.
I used to live in Hamilton. The province of Ontario is BIG. Yet their stellar Universal Health Care System could not come up with ONE bed for a premature infant?
I think we better get used to things like this because there is a very good chance things like that will happen in this country a few years from now.
I foresee many old people existing on pain killers because medical care isn't available for them and younger people at the same time. Obama has said that those who are weakest will just have to survive until some help becomes available.
I feel for this baby but we must remember that it is the Congress of the US that changed that law about things like passports.
It happens in the US under the current system, too.
I tried to schedule an appointment with my PP and was told that I couldn't get an appointment unless it was an emergency until September.
What makes you think that the current system is so good?
Nataline had been battling leukemia and received a bone marrow transplant from her brother. She developed a complication that caused her liver to fail.Doctors at UCLA determined she needed a transplant and sent a letter to Cigna Corp.’s Cigna HealthCare on Dec. 11. The Philadelphia-based health insurance company denied payment for the transplant, saying the procedure was experimental and outside the scope of coverage.
The US supposedly has the finest health care in the world, yet for every horror story you can find from Canada, there are a hundred here in the US.
Individual cases are not persuasive. But the fear-mongers on the right have nothing else, so that's what they do. And the stupider wingnuts fall for that logic.
Insurance companies suck.... Public social programs suck... can we NOW move to a discussion about making a better system? Obviously neither of them are great.. so abandon both sides and start THINKING about other alternatives... geez...
It happens in the US under the current system, too.
I tried to schedule an appointment with my PP and was told that I couldn't get an appointment unless it was an emergency until September.
What makes you think that the current system is so good?
If that's an HMO plan you are in then that is how it works.
I went with a dental HMO one year. I called them up with a crying 4 year old who had a toothache and they told me I could come in next week. Got in the car to a local dentist office I drove past everyday and they took me right away over and above any patients in waiting room and I had never even been there. Paid out of my pocket for that and dropped the HMO dental my next enrollment period. It wasn't worth the savings in premium.
You're going to see more of your example in the future with obamacare. Bureaucrats and bean counters making life and death decisions.
The point of the story; Shortages - one bed could not be scrounged up in the province of Ontario.
Lol.. Thats why our health care is the worst in the developed world. Don't you think it's about time to move on? Our system is a failure and as evilnewbie stated its time to find something that works. All you're doing is trying to keep the status quo.
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Canadian Health Care; How can this happen....
Don't you think it's about time to move on? Our system is a failure and as evilnewbie stated its time to find something that works. All you're doing is trying to keep the status quo.
