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I'm not certain myself, but one of the reasons I post here (after all it is a challenge) is to ensure my brain cells stay active in the hope I'll retain both long and short term memory!
I'll get some sources later and post them for us.
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Hmm, I'm not sure. Maybe we did, but my memory is fuzzy.
This is a tough question. I believe the two--government and big business--do generally tend to go hand-in-hand. They always have...it's always been the people with resources who were able to influence government, because these (the moneyed people) were generally the people with a following (think "fealty" in the middle ages, and similar institutions much earlier), and at the same time, the people of means were required to follow government in one way or another.
Often, it overlaps--the people of resources are the people in government.
So I don't think either big business or government is worse as far as having an influence on what we do as a society. I think it's a combination.
Well, I posed my question the way I did because some people tend to think of government control in the form of socialism. They see corporations as the opposite of that. The reality is, it's not black and white. More government is not necessarily socialistic and corporations are not a paragon of capitalism.
It's kind of funny, if you think about it. American propaganda preaches the gospel of capitalism and it demonizes all forms of socialism, yet it's corporations that are the source of this propaganda.
Well, I posed my question the way I did because some people tend to think of government control in the form of socialism. They see corporations as the opposite of that. The reality is, it's not black and white. More government is not necessarily socialistic and corporations are not a paragon of capitalism.
It's kind of funny, if you think about it. American propaganda preaches the gospel of capitalism and it demonizes all forms of socialism, yet it's corporations that are the source of this propaganda.
I don't think "American propaganda" (whatever that is) demonizes socialism, it just that it doesn't work. And how do you come to the conclusion that corporations are the source of this propaganda?
It may be more difficult and time consuming than I thought to find the articles, but if you check here, you'll see there is something of a movement taking place. One of the people I heard speak is Thomas Linzey. It sounds as if he is a pioneer in making some changes in corporate, individual and democracy policies.
I am fairly certain it was Mr. Linzey I heard speak about taking back the individual (in that case, an agricultural community in PA) rights as opposed to expanding corporate rights.
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I'm not certain myself, but one of the reasons I post here (after all it is a challenge) is to ensure my brain cells stay active in the hope I'll retain both long and short term memory!
That's a great article. It does a great job of illustrating just how much power corporations have over us. The idea that corporations have the same rights as living, breathing human beings is offensive.
Isn't it! And they are getting away with it--too often, and in too many arenas!
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That's a great article. It does a great job of illustrating just how much power corporations have over us. The idea that corporations have the same rights as living, breathing human beings is offensive.
What amazes me even more is that it's basically just you and me talking about this, ontheroad. I think we were talking about something similar before, and it was just you and me there, too.
Why do people not care about this? How can people not get upset by the fact that corporations can completely circumvent the will of the people? I've said many times that we are the only ones who can destroy the American way of life. The apathy I see toward this subject seems to confirm my claim. In this case, the devil is already in our bed.
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