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We are not the first country to consider taking a leap into gun control. Other countries, most notably Canada, Australia, and the UK have taken the leap within the last 15 years or so. There is before/after data to be studied that will help us inform our path . I agree: assumptions and intuition have no place in this decision! Look at the data! If you do, we won't need to discuss philosophy or the 2nd amendment.
I agree with those countries like Canada that remove guns. I think it would reduce crime. I think I've seen a few statistics on it but I would be curious to see if anyone has a link to them as I am working off of my memory here. However, I don't think it is the "all in one" answer like everyone is looking for, incidents will still occur.
I agree with those countries like Canada that remove guns. I think it would reduce crime. I think I've seen a few statistics on it but I would be curious to see if anyone has a link to them as I am working off of my memory here. However, I don't think it is the "all in one" answer like everyone is looking for, incidents will still occur.
I haven't read through all this thread, so if I bring this up and it's already been covered, I mean no disrespect. But tackling this issue with gun control is kinda like solving drinking-and-driving by banning alcohol, isn't it?
I mean, maybe I'm not seeing something, but it sounds the same to me. And trust me, there's a whole lot more than 32 families grieving the loss of their young children because of alcohol that wasn't used responsibily.
Thoughts????
04-20-2007, 12:43 PM
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I haven't read through all this thread, so if I bring this up and it's already been covered, I mean no disrespect. But tackling this issue with gun control is kinda like solving drinking-and-driving by banning alcohol, isn't it?
I mean, maybe I'm not seeing something, but it sounds the same to me. And trust me, there's a whole lot more than 32 families grieving the loss of their young children because of alcohol that wasn't used responsibily.
Thoughts????
People are addicted to drinking, not very many people are addicted to guns. It would be a much easier transition in my opinion, and as people have said it has worked well in other countries.
People are addicted to drinking, not very many people are addicted to guns. It would be a much easier transition in my opinion, and as people have said it has worked well in other countries.
Respectfully Shadow, I think that's weak. You and I both know that a lot of the accidents and deaths are not alcohol addicted users. While I give you that the possibility to be addicted is there, I don't think it's the root cause of traffic accidents. And besides, if you banned alcohol, wouldn't you cure the addiciton and the danger to others?
I'm not suggesting that's what we do, I'm just asking isn't it the same rational?
The weapon certainly makes it easier. Would this kid at VT have killed so many people if he could only get his hands on a knife?
Comparing something like a knife or a club to a gun is not really applicable. You can't easily kill 30 people in a few minutes with a knife or club.
Are you sure?
04-20-2007, 12:51 PM
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Respectfully Shadow, I think that's weak. You and I both know that a lot of the accidents and deaths are not alcohol addicted users. While I give you that the possibility to be addicted is there, I don't think it's the root cause of traffic accidents. And besides, if you banned alcohol, wouldn't you cure the addiciton and the danger to others?
I'm not suggesting that's what we do, I'm just asking isn't it the same rational?
Many countries have banned guns and it worked well.
We banned alcohol and it was a disaster.
That is what I'm basing my posts on.
I would want alcohol banned but it obviously didn't work, gun control has.
04-20-2007, 12:52 PM
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Are you sure?
You think one kid with a knife or club could take on thirty unarmed people? Not a chance.
You think one kid with a knife or club could take on thirty unarmed people? Not a chance.
Your ignorance is showing...
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