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Old 07-16-2009, 06:16 PM
 
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Absolutely NOT!

For heavens sakes - we need all the ideas we can get - Conservative, Liberal, Libertarian etc.

What we DO NEED however is an informed electorate.


We need voters who get to know the issues - get to know the candidates - communicate with their elected officials - hold their feet to the fire.
Crap. I agree with you.
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Old 07-16-2009, 08:05 PM
 
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Does anybody doubt that if a white candidate with a thin resume like Obama's had run, he would have been laughed off the stage at the Democratic debates during the primaries instead of being treated as if he brought gravitas to the game?
You just described John Edwards in 2004. He was also a first-term Senator with a thin resume. Democrats didn't laugh him off the stage. They made him their VP candidate. Obama won his party's nomination not because of his race, but despite it. Many blacks and Hispanics were originally in support of Hillary Clinton. But Obama ran the better campaign. He used the internet more effectively to raise funds, he didn't underestimate the value of caucases, and his campaign staff adapted to changes quickly. These were all areas that his principal rival, Hillary Clinton, failed at, areas that have nothing to do with race.

Unfortunately, some people will never be able to see past Obama's race. They will always view him as an affirmative action pic, which is also how they see Sotomayor, despite the fact that she has 17 years of experience as a judge.
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Old 07-16-2009, 11:44 PM
 
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Should Liberals Be Kept Out Of All Local, State, and National Government?
Some threads suggest that liberals are communists. One recent thread tried to make the case that liberalism is a psychological disorder.
If liberals are insane, never do anything right and are always wrong about everything all the time...if liberals have a secret agenda (either intentional or unintentional) to destroy America...should they be allowed to make any decisions for local, state, or national government?
Um, NO. Jesus Christ, they are always going to be in office, just like the conservatives, libertarians, etc. GET OVER IT!!!
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Old 07-17-2009, 12:00 AM
 
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You just described John Edwards in 2004. He was also a first-term Senator with a thin resume. Democrats didn't laugh him off the stage. They made him their VP candidate.
It appears that Democrats have a preference for inexperienced candidates, is that what you are saying?
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Old 07-17-2009, 12:01 AM
 
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Unfortunately, some people will never be able to see past Obama's race. They will always view him as an affirmative action pic, which is also how they see Sotomayor
No, I think the problem with Sotomayor is that she is an avowed racist, not that she was chosen as an AA pic.
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Old 07-17-2009, 12:10 AM
 
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Should Liberals Be Kept Out Of All Local, State, and National Government?
Some threads suggest that liberals are communists. One recent thread tried to make the case that liberalism is a psychological disorder.
If liberals are insane, never do anything right and are always wrong about everything all the time...if liberals have a secret agenda (either intentional or unintentional) to destroy America...should they be allowed to make any decisions for local, state, or national government?
and how do you propose to stop Liberals from being kept out of office Einstein? Gulags? Internment camps? Torture & water boarding? Just go look up the techniques Kim Jung Il, Castro or Stalin! All those should give a tingle! Perhaps you can even start calling Liberals "disidents" and enemies of the state!
You rightwingers are some seriously mentally ill people starting with the OP. No wonder HomeLand Security think you ultra rightwingers are a threat to national security!
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Old 07-17-2009, 12:20 AM
 
Location: Nashville
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Look up the meaning of socialist then look up the meaning of nazi. I go with conservative.
Seriously?
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Old 07-17-2009, 12:45 AM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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I suspect the good Visvaldis is having little joke on our expense, here.
I got that distinct impression also...LOL... The more outrageous the OP thread is the more interest it receives.
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Old 07-17-2009, 05:20 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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I think there is a substantial (not a majority) number of liberals that do hate America.

Unfortunately it is that extreme left wing that is driving the Democratic party at the moment.

When will Democrat moderates get tired of the Jeremiah Wright/Bill Ayers wing of the party?

Not soon, probably.

The radicals on the left engineered the Obama victory by deceit and racial intimidation. (Does anybody doubt that if a white candidate with a thin resume like Obama's had run, he would have been laughed off the stage at the Democratic debates during the primaries instead of being treated as if he brought gravitas to the game?)

The moderates need the radical left to keep them in power.
The Wright/Ayers wing of the Democratic party is only in the eyes of Republicans. Most liberals/progressives pretty much ignore them and those like them. Only conservitive talk show host celebrate them. (They give them more air time then the rest of the MSM, that they (the talk show hosts) are part of)


Most candidates will have to have a thin resume these days, since career politicians are considered "tainted" by many, and something you said in high school will be brought up as a major issue. (being a failure at almost everything or doing very little, has never kept anyone out of the white house, now has it?)

Being Liberal in America is as close to being a Socialist as being a Conservative in America is to being Communist.
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:49 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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Should Liberals Be Kept Out Of All Local, State, and National Government?
Some threads suggest that liberals are communists. One recent thread tried to make the case that liberalism is a psychological disorder.
If liberals are insane, never do anything right and are always wrong about everything all the time...if liberals have a secret agenda (either intentional or unintentional) to destroy America...should they be allowed to make any decisions for local, state, or national government?
Commies should never have power. We have the 20th century alone to show why...millions and millions of people killed, and millions more lives ruined by total government control of them.
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