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Old 08-17-2009, 09:22 AM
 
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This evil attempt by Obama is only the latest attempt for the goverment to take over our lives. We must get rid all sources of socialism to save our selves from being comerades. Buses, public parks, Amtrack, subways, Interstates, fire departments, police departments, airports, the post office, the military. ALL MUST GO. We must save America!!!
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Old 08-17-2009, 09:23 AM
 
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This evil attempt by Obama is only the latest attempt for the goverment to take over our lives. We must get rid all sources of socialism to save our selves from being comerades. Buses, public parks, Amtrack, subways, Interstates, fire departments, police departments, airports, the post office, the military. ALL MUST GO. We must save America!!!
I like Airports though.
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Old 08-17-2009, 09:29 AM
 
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There is a big difference between social services and social programs. I suggest you learn the difference. One benefits everybody, the other benefits a select few individuals.Secondly, there is a huge difference regarding WHO administers the program and its validity. The constitution is clear that any powers not given to the federal government are to be imposed at the state and local levels. Thus, Buses, parks, amtrack, subways, interstates, fire departments, police departments, airports are all a smoke screen for your argument. The post office is completely independant of the government. And the military is supported by the Constitution.
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:47 AM
 
Location: PNW
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There is a big difference between social services and social programs. I suggest you learn the difference. One benefits everybody, the other benefits a select few individuals.Secondly, there is a huge difference regarding WHO administers the program and its validity. The constitution is clear that any powers not given to the federal government are to be imposed at the state and local levels. Thus, Buses, parks, amtrack, subways, interstates, fire departments, police departments, airports are all a smoke screen for your argument. The post office is completely independant of the government. And the military is supported by the Constitution.
Crickets...
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:51 AM
 
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There is a big difference between social services and social programs. I suggest you learn the difference. One benefits everybody, the other benefits a select few individuals.Secondly, there is a huge difference regarding WHO administers the program and its validity. The constitution is clear that any powers not given to the federal government are to be imposed at the state and local levels. Thus, Buses, parks, amtrack, subways, interstates, fire departments, police departments, airports are all a smoke screen for your argument. The post office is completely independant of the government. And the military is supported by the Constitution.
Where do people get this idea about the postal service being independent from the Government? Your grasp of the Constitution is staggering.
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:57 AM
 
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And the military is supported by the Constitution.
I am just continually in a state of awe when it comes to the erudite posts of C-D's resident Constitutional scholars. For example, I've read the Constitution over and over again, often read from my copy of the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers as well as Richard Beeman's "Plain Honest Men" and Catherine Drinker Bowen's Miracle At Philadelphia and for the life of me I can figure out how I missed the parts establishing the Department of Defense, the NSA, the CIA or the NRO!
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Old 08-17-2009, 11:10 AM
 
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I am just continually in a state of awe when it comes to the erudite posts of C-D's resident Constitutional scholars. For example, I've read the Constitution over and over again, often read from my copy of the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers as well as Richard Beeman's "Plain Honest Men" and Catherine Drinker Bowen's Miracle At Philadelphia and for the life of me I can figure out how I missed the parts establishing the Department of Defense, the NSA, the CIA or the NRO!
If you read it again, you will also find no mention of the Air Force.
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Old 08-17-2009, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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I learned on Jeopardy that the Post Office is the largest employer in the US that is not considered government. I don't know where everyone else heard it though.
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Old 08-17-2009, 11:18 AM
 
Location: USA
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This evil attempt by Obama is only the latest attempt for the goverment to take over our lives. We must get rid all sources of socialism to save our selves from being comerades. Buses, public parks, Amtrack, subways, Interstates, fire departments, police departments, airports, the post office, the military. ALL MUST GO. We must save America!!!

Yes, more and more industries are being taken over by the government. You'll see the jokers post cute comments, because they don't take this seriously, but one day they will.


People get caught up in semantics, but it's the same big bloated bunch of bureaucracies inept and corrupt, running this nation. They care nothing for you or me.
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Old 08-17-2009, 11:22 AM
 
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I learned on Jeopardy that the Post Office is the largest employer in the US that is not considered government. I don't know where everyone else heard it though.
The United States Postal service is not a government owned corporation it is a United states government agency. It is wholly owned by the government and controlled by the Presidential appointees and the Postmaster General

United States Postal Service - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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