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Yep, my costs aren't as high, but I do pay about $200/month for a $5200 deductible plan. When I've told friends in Canada and the UK about it, they can't imagine having to spend that much money on basic medical needs. When it comes to health care, I think the U.S. looks insane compared to other advanced countries.
My sister was like, "are you insane???? I might as well NOT have insurance! ".
Healthcare is something that people need....not want
Many conservatives in the U.S. don't even think that food should be considered something that people need. Their attitude is: If you starve to death, too bad. You must be a lazy bum.
Many conservatives in the U.S. don't even think that food should be considered something that people need. Their attitude is: If you starve to death, too bad. You must be a lazy bum.
,,,,,,,because there's no money for them to milk, since we're talking about those on low incomes, those who are unemployed or even self employed. There's no money to be made there....so naturally, why would they bother trying to milk money out of 50 million people that simply isn't there?
As for the money they make, they are making that money because those who pay them feel that they "need" health insurance. Since all insurance companies do exactly the same things (jack up premiums, deny due to pre-existing conditions), there really is no incentive to cut costs and reduce premiums....it's a big cash cow for them either way.
Healthcare has fallen at the mercy of corporate America...clearly, you are just fine and dandy with this.
Then why are 85-90 percent of people with health insurance happy with it?
And why is well over half of Americans against a socialized helathcare system?
Are we all being brainwashe dby corporate America? LOL.
Fact is the vast majority of people that don't have insurance here is because they choose not to get it.
If Obama was only trying to insure people that wanted but could not afford it he would get it passed in a heart beat. Prbably about 10 millionm people or so. It would be siimple to do. And it wouldn't cost that much.
Instead he goes out and says stuff about how evil the insurance companies are. If up to 90% of people are happy with their insurance then why does he keep saying how bad it is. Then he says he aint gonna touch it. That's why he will never pass this. He's lying and people know it. If he didn't want to touch it he would be talking about it.
All he needs to do is say we X amount of people that want insurance and cannot afford it. This is how much it will cost. He could pass it quick and he knows it.
Nobody believes his 50million number.
And if insurance compnies did what you said they did in denying coverage then they are guilty of fraud. And the government should start locking people up. Since the govt aint doing that we know that they are lying about insurance companies denying care. And you know it too.
And how come insurance comapnies don't pull all these trcks with auto insurance, home owners, renters, etc..... Couldn't they do the same thing and start jacking up the prices of premiums and denying coverage? I don't see why not. It's the exact same companies. If it works for health insurance it out to work for all other forms of insurance. Or are you just not very smart?
The answer doesn't need a socialist. It needs an understanding in the concepts of scarcity as it applies to healthcare particularly the best doctors and hospitals and the fact that not all people can equally compete for scarce healthcare resources. The USA has a very top heavy income distribution with as much as 80% of the country's income in the hands of 30% of the people. So if you just focus on providing healthcare to these high income earners i.e. about 100 million Americans, you are getting the people who can easily afford to pay 10s or 100s of thousands of dollar in medical bills. You have most of the earnings that are possible in America. To extend this care to the other 200 million makes little business sense since there is little spare income to pay for expensive medical procedures so you will earn little compared to the cost of doing those procedures. This logic applies not only to medicine but luxury goods and explains why Gucci doesn't sell anything at Walmart or Target.
4 years ago I was making 9.50 an hour. And I had medical insurance. So apparently you are wrong.
And yeah you are right Gucci doesn'r sell at Wal-Mart.
Funny though. Every other good and service imaginable is provided for by the market for those of lower incomes. We lower cost department stores, restaurants, grocery stores, automoblies, airlines, legal services. Everything I can think of is provided for lower income people except health care. Makes no sense. You would think an insurance comapny would think of way to provide for these 50 million people. Unless that number is just a lie. It's probably closer to 10. The other 40 can afford it. They just refuse coverage. I actually know people that have done this.
Yep, my costs aren't as high, but I do pay about $200/month for a $5200 deductible plan. When I've told friends in Canada and the UK about it, they can't imagine having to spend that much money on basic medical needs. When it comes to health care, I think the U.S. looks insane compared to other advanced countries.
Ask them how much they enjoy their GST VAT tax on top of their provincial taxes, excise taxes, property taxes, and health and prescription taxes.They can't imagine having to spend that money on basic medical needs even though they are spending it. They just give it to their government, who skims some off the top and redistributes it in the form of entitlement programs.
4 years ago I was making 9.50 an hour. And I had medical insurance. So apparently you are wrong.
And yeah you are right Gucci doesn'r sell at Wal-Mart.
Funny though. Every other good and service imaginable is provided for by the market for those of lower incomes. We lower cost department stores, restaurants, grocery stores, automoblies, airlines, legal services. Everything I can think of is provided for lower income people except health care. Makes no sense. You would think an insurance comapny would think of way to provide for these 50 million people. Unless that number is just a lie. It's probably closer to 10. The other 40 can afford it. They just refuse coverage. I actually know people that have done this.
There is coverage for lower income people. But just as lower income people don't get the Mercedes-Benz, 4000 sf homes or nice dinners out all the time they don't get the most robust health care packages.
Fact is the vast majority of people that don't have insurance here is because they choose not to get it.
They choose not to get it because they can't afford it.
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And how come insurance comapnies don't pull all these trcks with auto insurance, home owners, renters, etc..... Couldn't they do the same thing and start jacking up the prices of premiums and denying coverage? I don't see why not. It's the exact same companies. If it works for health insurance it out to work for all other forms of insurance. Or are you just not very smart?
Health care is much more essential to living a good life than having auto insurance, homeowners insurance, renters insurance, etc. And health insurance is also much more expensive.
Even in Florida with all of its senior citizens, a majority of the population wants government-run health insurance.
Poll: Floridians Want Gov't. Run Health Insurance - cbs4.com (http://cbs4.com/local/obama.health.poll.2.1136681.html - broken link)
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