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Old 09-02-2009, 05:48 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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The religious right will surely disagree...or at least lie about it.
Oh yeah. Big time I disagree, because it is ridiculous! Prove it from scripture. I'm waiting.
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Old 09-02-2009, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Prove it from scripture. I'm waiting.
What the hell does that mean? How do you "prove" something from a bunch of myths? "Proof" is something that requires reason, not mythology.
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Old 09-02-2009, 06:01 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Jesus was born and died a Jew. The Last Supper was actually a Passover Seder, as a matter of fact. Christianity is not the religion of Jesus;
Duhhhh! Of course it wasn't! It became known as Christianity because those who believed, were called "Christians"!!! Duhhh!

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it is that of the worshippers of Jesus.
Those who believed he was indeed the Messiah, the "Promised One". They believed he was God (as he told them) "If you know me, then you know the Father also".

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There was no such thing as Christianity until Jesus died.
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His teachings were labeled Christianity by his followers.
Not quite. They were called Christians by others first.

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Christianity was a new religion and it was so from the day after the death of Jesus.
No, not until the resurrection, and it was not a "new religion". It is the fulfillment of Judaism.

The "New Testament" means the "New Covenant".

Christians are Jews by adoption (unless they are Jewish believers, of course). We are "grafted in". But I'm sure you have no idea what that means.
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Old 09-02-2009, 06:05 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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What the hell does that mean? How do you "prove" something from a bunch of myths? "Proof" is something that requires reason, not mythology.
You lose.
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Old 09-02-2009, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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You lose.
Is that an argument?

The Bible is, by definition, a collection of myths.

myth - definition of myth by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
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Old 09-02-2009, 06:10 PM
 
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I'm not mixing issues, you're trying to set the plate, serve the food, eat and clean the shyt up. You're setting you're own criteria to generousity. "Christians help those in need"..That should be the end of that statement, no caveats or "buts" if you're a true Christian. The church in fact redistributes the tithes paid to the church to support the programs ran by the church. God doesn't write checks. I actually don't hate Christianity, I hate Christian hypocrites. They pretend to be generous but have stipulations. Jesus didn't have stipulations. If you came to him, he gave to you.

Again, I'm not throwing stones at Christianity, I'm throwing stones at those that misrepresent Christianity, that present themselves as being above others when their actions show them as selfish corporatists.

How do you ask God for insight? Which God? Which Bible? Which Church? What time? In what way?
Sure Christians help those in need... but help can be in MANY different forms and in many different amounts... helping those in need does NOT imply that you should steal from others nor does it mean that you should be destitute... it also doesn't mean that you have to give up your money because the needy "want" it... The ones that I rarely see any help are from socialists... they rather steal, cheat, and lie... sound familiar? Hypocrite? Look thyself in the mirror... a hypocrite calling others hypocrites is perhaps the biggest hypocrite of them all...
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Old 09-02-2009, 06:13 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Amen to that.

Actually, Christianity shaped over 30 years after his death. When they couldn't remember all details very much anymore and had managed to kill him off...
Religion is always created by followers of some sort of new, free thinking, and made into concepts.
ROFLMAO!

Christianity was not "shaped" over 30 years after Christ. (Im shaking my head in disbeliefe of the stupidity here).

You are basing your beliefs on nothing intelligent, but only what you think you know. If you want to present an argument, you'd better first study the subject.

Good starting place: "Evidence That Demands a Vercict" by Josh McDowell. He was like you: your basic unbeliever. Until he was challenged to provide proof that Christianity was a lie. He tried. Oh, yeah, he tried. What he found is outlined in that book.
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Old 09-02-2009, 06:35 PM
 
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Spoken like a "real" Christian.

Why can't Christians point out foolishness? Or has this been outlawed?
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Old 09-02-2009, 06:38 PM
 
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I find it curious, sad, hilarious and very perplexing that you actually believe the shyt you say.

Well, if the shoe fits...........................


I am not the guy trying to rehab the image of Hitler and compare Obama to Christ. I think that those efforts truely are hilarous, perplexing, and very sad.

The left should be trying to rehab George Soros' image, as he is the man in charge. Obama is just his pet dog.
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Old 09-02-2009, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Why can't Christians point out foolishness? Or has this been outlawed?
I didn't say "real" Christians can't. In fact, if they didn't, what else would be left for them to live with?
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