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Old 04-12-2013, 02:06 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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You think I am trying to defend Bush? That's funny. I never expected much from Bush - and he truly is the greater idiot, but somehow I thought Obama would 'change' things. Nope. He is truly a do-nothing president.
I was for Paul throughout, and you sheeple on both sides of the party line just don't get it.
Since you sound like a libertarian, you should watch the following documentary. The CEO's who control the libertarian party (manipulate librarians as if they were retarded.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSAzYWmsiwI


Then you called me a sheeple.

But can you explain how I am a sheeple??
Answer: No.


The present day libertarian party platform was created by large corporations and corporate CEO's.

Libertarians want to abolish the EPA and FDA (so these government agencies can no longer fine and regulate large corporations.)
Libertarians want to end most taxes (to end most corporate taxes.)
Libertarians want to end welfare (so the government no longer needs corporate tax revenue to fund it.)
Libertarians want to abolish public schools, public libraries, the US post office, ex.ex. (to transfer their funding and revenue to large corporations.)

Libertarians want limited government (so large corporations will no longer be regulated.)
Libertarians want to privatize Social Security (so the Wall Street CEO's can take $750 billion dollars in fees, from everyones retirement money.)

(Everything that libertarians stand for, has one thing in common, they all increase corporate profits.)


A libertarian is (not) even a real man, because real men protect women and children.

For example the FDA and EPA keeps your mother, girlfriend/wife, and children safe and healthy.
The FDA makes sure your family does not take dangerous medicines, or eat unsafe contaminated food.
The EPA makes sure your children don't play in areas contaminated with dangerous chemicals.

But you still want to abolish the FDA and EPA don't you ??

When was the last time you considered your families health and wellbeing in politics?
Answer: You could care less about the government keeping your family safe, you just want to stick your nose up Ron Pauls butt, and increase corporate profits.


And can you explain how I am a sheeple ??
(but you can't)

Just like republicans, the libertarians post phony sound bites, that they can't explain, backup, or provide sources for (and then you call ME a sheeple.)

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Old 04-12-2013, 03:43 AM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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War? In Afghanistan?

Are you sure?

Hmmmm......
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Old 04-12-2013, 04:12 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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War? In Afghanistan?

Are you sure?

Hmmmm......
The Russians had no luck in Afghanistan. The Canadians are slowly pulling out...and America has wasted time and resources and human life and limb in the region. These conflicts are not even real wars. There is no defined enemy nor is there a plan in place that will settle and cool out the area. It is what it is...a primitive rock pile.

The first clue that Obama was weak and insecure was when he promised to shut down the torture chambers and the prison camp in Cuba. He reneged on the promise. It makes you wonder what keeps these back water conflicts going? 9 11 was crewed and financed by the Saudi Arabians. No one addressed this fact. I would assume that military contractors and those involved in weapons manufacture and sales along with the production of support in the distribution of common war supplies are the ones that quietly lobby Washington to extend the missions.

It's exactly like a hot dog vendor who's permit has run out and pleads for more time because business is so good. It may be that simple. Soon as the term "Homeland Security" was invented I knew that this Nazi sounding phrase was a ruse. America has to eventually get out of the war business. The only economy that war stimulates are the private economies of a few elite at the expense of a nation. Obama is not a war monger. He is a business representative of this greedy and cold elite.

It is such an age old scam. You illegally tax the public...you take the stolen money and launder it through war then take the profits and put it in the pockets of the super rich. President Eisenhower warned America about this scam - He was an experienced general and knew what he was talking about.


There are limits to war and plunder. To continue to engage in such activity is very similar to a wayward father who takes the families wealth and invests it in a Casino. The Casino offers false hope to the public but always ensures that the house always wins. Americans are excluded for the most part from that house.
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Old 04-12-2013, 04:58 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Don't blame Obama . He is the typical President and there is nothing new about him. Once Presidents are elected they are taken aside and instructed by a committee of those that represent those with a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. Obama must do what he is told. If you wander from this contract and even consider breaching it - You can end up like JFK. If you represent evil enterprise and suddenly you are inspired to do the right thing...look out- that blip of goodness can get you removed from office in an instant. America like all other nations has a history of killing figure heads that suddenly develop their own voice. You take the job- you take instructions. That's the deal.
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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This thread blamed B. Obama for deaths caused by GW Bush's wars. And this thread fully lacks any common sense, because Obama wants to end the Afghanistan war (as the following sources clearly show.)

NATO accepts Obama timetable to end war in Afghanistan by 2014 - CNN.com
Obama: End Afghanistan war, rebuild USA
Obama: End of Afghan War in Sight
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/23/wo...anted=all&_r=0


And Obama did change things.

Obama wants to end the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.
Obama gave insurance to the 45,000 Americans, who die each year from not having health insurance.
Obama is trying to outlaw the assault weapons that are being used to kill American children in schools.
Obama's wife is trying to get our children healthier school lunches.
ex.ex.ex.

But the major thing Obama did, was to bring down the huge deficits that GW Bush created, as the following source shows. (see "Growth Rate YoY" section on the following graph.)

http://www.skymachines.com/US-Nation...ental-Term.htm
Looks like someone doesn't realize there's a CONGRESS. Oopsie!
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Since you sound like a libertarian, you should watch the following documentary. The CEO's who control the libertarian party (manipulate librarians as if they were retarded.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSAzYWmsiwI


Then you called me a sheeple.

But can you explain how I am a sheeple??
Answer: No.


The present day libertarian party platform was created by large corporations and corporate CEO's.

Libertarians want to abolish the EPA and FDA (so these government agencies can no longer fine and regulate large corporations.)
Libertarians want to end most taxes (to end most corporate taxes.)
Libertarians want to end welfare (so the government no longer needs corporate tax revenue to fund it.)
Libertarians want to abolish public schools, public libraries, the US post office, ex.ex. (to transfer their funding and revenue to large corporations.)

Libertarians want limited government (so large corporations will no longer be regulated.)
Libertarians want to privatize Social Security (so the Wall Street CEO's can take $750 billion dollars in fees, from everyones retirement money.)

(Everything that libertarians stand for, has one thing in common, they all increase corporate profits.)


A libertarian is (not) even a real man, because real men protect women and children.

For example the FDA and EPA keeps your mother, girlfriend/wife, and children safe and healthy.
The FDA makes sure your family does not take dangerous medicines, or eat unsafe contaminated food.
The EPA makes sure your children don't play in areas contaminated with dangerous chemicals.

But you still want to abolish the FDA and EPA don't you ??

When was the last time you considered your families health and wellbeing in politics?
Answer: You could care less about the government keeping your family safe, you just want to stick your nose up Ron Pauls butt, and increase corporate profits.


And can you explain how I am a sheeple ??
(but you can't)

Just like republicans, the libertarians post phony sound bites, that they can't explain, backup, or provide sources for (and then you call ME a sheeple.)
Libertarians stand upon the hill watching Republicans and Democrats in the valley below tearing each other apart. The citizenry in-fighting over every little micro-problem, because they are being played like puppets. YOU ARE SHEEPLE!

The main thing that I hear from your rant is that you hate corporations and free markets. You sound like a Marxist with all of your railing against capitalist pigs.

Libertarians are a threat to the status quo, and this is why both sides hate us. We are the last Bastian of constitutionalism, and we believe that any interpretation of it is used as a way to subvert and supplant it.

Libertarians:

-see the hypocrisy on both sides and make no excuses for a job badly done
-understand that a lightly regulated free market is the best solution to build an economy.
-know that the constitution enforces free trade, freedom OF RELIGION, right to bear arms, and taxation through representation. We also know that we are taxed and regulated, with little representation.
-believe people can do anything they want, as long as they don't hurt anyone else doing it, or expect the public to subsidize it.
-believe that we should all be reponsible for our own lives.
-believe the war on drugs has been a war on citizenry and an abject failure. Its purpose is intentionally creating a honey pot for pet projects. Nearly 1/2 of all the inmates are in for minor drug offenses. The corporate prison machine needs to be destroyed.
-believe that welfare should go back to the original intent, and redirect it to include retraining programs. There is no reason why an able-bodied man should be collecting welfare.
-believe in strong borders and that our nation is sovereign.
-believe that we should be building OUR NATION, not others like Iraq.

Most of all we believe that we are an exceptional country, only if we adhere to the founding fathers plan.

And no, we do not want to abolish the EPA, FDA, and other safety administrations. We do want to remove the corporate implants running them.

You rail against corporations and then give props to the very entities that ARE BEING CONTROLLED BY CORPORATIONS! EXP: Monsanto is at this very moment trying to get federal legislation passed making them exempt from any FDA action in the future. In other words, if their frakenfood eventually kills thousands of people, they won't be held accountable.

Your entire post is one big hypocritical contradiction.
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Old 04-12-2013, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Texas
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snipped all the garbage and lies


A libertarian is (not) even a real man, because real men protect women and children.
Real men don't need government to tell them what to do. We help without being led around by the nose

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For example the FDA and EPA keeps your mother, girlfriend/wife, and children safe and healthy.
The FDA makes sure your family does not take dangerous medicines, or eat unsafe contaminated food.
The EPA makes sure your children don't play in areas contaminated with dangerous chemicals.
And can you explain how I am a sheeple ??
(but you can't)
No need to, you just explained it yourself. When was the last time you did something on your own instead of having government do it for you?
I don't need someone to tell me. That's why you're sheeple. Man up
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Old 04-12-2013, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Obama has such a sweet face and boyish charm. He is not a war monger...he's a nice guy and his voice is so soothing.
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