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Unlike the military juntas our government supported that killed and wasted men, women and children. The world would be a better place, and our country's place in history more secure, if we refused to tolerate and support murderers and rapists in order to further our foreign goals.
As we continue to do in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia... The biggest difference between our country and a man is that if a man is guilty, he is a criminal. If our country is guilty of crimes, we want to avert our eyes and call it, "necessary to defeat terrorism." And there is no judge or jury to evaluate our actions.
Yes, but most people don't get all romantic about people like Pinochet, but they do about Che.
That is what makes it so annoying. Che was a least as bad as Pinochet or any other tin pot thug, but the dips--t is fawned over while the others are (rightfully) reviled.
He had three or four children. His children were not a positive attribute?
So? He could reproduce. What's the big deal? Even cockroaches can do that.
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I'm not equivocating. There are many things about Che which I admire. There is the potential for light and dark in YOU as well as every other human being ever born. There is a potential serial killer in you and every other human being ever born, just as there is a potential Mother Theresa in every human being born.
Again, your Christ taught/teaches that man is full of sin.
Che was a complicated man. Only someone with a very small mind could fail to see that. "Complicated" does not = good, bad, or indifferent.
Yes, he was "complicated". That doesn't mean he didn't do some evil (for lack of a better word) things.
Adolph Eichmann was also "complicated". A man who was pretty much a shiftless failure until his late 20s when he joined the Nazi Party. Later he became head of the Jewish Department for the SS. He tried to find various solutions to the "Jewish Question" including meeting with various Zionist groups to discuss the deportation of European Jews to the British Mandate of Palestine as a sort of win-win for both Nazi Germany and the Zionists. By most accounts, Eichmann wasn't even really an anti-Semite and held no personal animosity towards Jews. Later when it was decided by Hitler, Himmler, and Heydrich that the only solution to the "Jewish Question" was complete extermination of the Jewish population of any territories occupied by Nazi Germany, Eichmann really got a chance to show off his organizational talents. He spent hundreds (if not thousands) of hours pouring over the blueprints for extermination camps, arranging mass deportations, setting smaller "distribution centers" for sorting out who went to what type of camp, writing stern letters to camp commandants warning them that they were using too much Zyklon B and that they weren't being cost effective, and so on. In a different world (or at least a few better choices), he would have probably been a successful CEO for a Fortune 500 company, but he wasn't. Despite the contrasts between his mild mannered personality and his chosen profession as a ruthless executioner, at the end of the day, he was a murderer all the same.
Just like Che.
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Like Bob Marley's (worn a lot by people who don't listen to his music) and Malcom X's image, it is just a cool looking t-shirt/banner, that says anti-establishment and nothing else.
Yeah, right.
And the Confederacy was only about States' Rights. Not about slavery at all, nope, nope.
If you believe that, you'll believe anything. Just as the people boosting Che would like you to.
Do you feel the same way about Tim McVeigh and his methods??
Timmy felt the IRS and its in-human subordinates were of a terroist organization, ...and I think today, many AMERICANS feel the same way!!!
INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE? Alittle research shows no American is obligated to pay FEDERAL TAXES!
....but then again, we are some of the dumbest ass people on EARTH! Why don't Indians, non-native have to pay a FEDERAL TAX????
The best part of the CUBAN REVOLUTION is they made the RICH AND FAMOUS leave their mansions and many left their jewelry behind!
To me the the IRS is the same as Timothy Mcveigh, they actually created him!
They could never create CHE, he hated BLOOD SUCKING HUMAN PARASITES, who would take someones home because of monies owed to a terroist org.!
WHO THE HELL THOUGHT OF TAXING POOR PEOPLE AND NOT THE RICH!
Then again, the IRS is as AMERICAN as apple pie, momma says eat it and we eat it!
I just hope the IRS donates alot of MONIES to help fight that OIL spoil in the GULF because many Americans there will be affected, a loss of jobs and that means what???
A little research shows no American is obligated to pay FEDERAL TAXES!
That's incorrect.
Only "persons liable" are obligated to pay.
The correct statement is that few Americans know how they became obligated to pay an income tax on their remuneration (wages).
Remember, all taxes are on revenue taxable activities and items (i.e., imposts, excises, and duties). The income tax was not a tax on income, but upon the taxable activity, of which the tax was measured by the income generated. (No right protected by government can be subject to taxation. And the "right to work" has been part of one's right to life, since 1776.)
Read the Socialist InSecurity Act of 1935, and you will have your answer.
It's codified here:
TITLE 26
Subtitle C
CHAPTER 21
Subchapter A
§ 3101. Rate of tax
(a) Old-age, survivors, and disability insurance In addition to other taxes, there is hereby imposed on the income of every individual a tax equal to the following percentages of the wages (as defined in section 3121(a)) received by him with respect to employment (as defined in section 3121(b))
It is clear that this section imposes an "income tax" on "wages" because of "employment." It doesn't defined wages as income. It plainly states that tax will be based on a percentage of wages.
Title 26, EMPLOYMENT TAXES
Chapter 21-Federal Insurance Contributions Act
Section 3121 Definitions: Employment. For purposes of this chapter, the term "employment" means any service, of whatever nature, performed
(A) by an employee for the person employing him, irrespective of the citizenship or residence of either,
(i) within the United States, or
(ii) on or in connection with an American vessel or American aircraft under a contract of service which is entered into within the United States ...
(B) Outside the United States by a citizen of the United States ...
as an employee of an American employer (as defined in subsection(h)), or (C) if it is service, regardless of where or by whom performed, which is designated as employmentor recognized as equivalent to employment under an agreement entered into under section 233 of the Social Security Act; ...
(for section 233 please refer to 42 USC 433)
42 USC Sec. 433. International agreements
(a) Purpose of agreement
The President is authorized (subject to the succeeding provisions of this section) to enter into agreements establishing totalization arrangements between the social security system established by this subchapter and the social security system of any foreign country...
THERE IT IS - THE SMOKING GUN.
No matter where or by whom such service is performed, it is REVENUE TAXABLE EMPLOYMENT *(as if within the U.S. gubmint), if one is in a compact with Socialist InSecurity. THANKS to a treaty, each enumerated "contributor" is a "human resource" pledged as collateral on the unpayable national debt (in excess of 12 trillions).
No law compels one to participate in Social Security / FICA. If ever a law compelled participation, it would be involuntary servitude, unconstitutional, void, and a nullity. It's 100% voluntary - voluntary servitude, by compact.
Welcome to the United Socialist States of America - soon to be the People's Democratic Socialist Republic of America.
Praise be to Obama!
(sarcasm flag off)
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