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I agree with you their are far more important things to address, like jobs. You would think simple logic would tell Obama if more people are gainfully employed and have income, there is more to tax. You would think. Are you going deaf? That really is sad, I have been losing my eyesight and will continue from now on. I know a deaf woman here in our development that became a heart surgeons nurse. She is awesome. If deafness is the reason you cant get insurance I understand your issues and would hope we can kick the insurance industry in the parts soon. But you still have a life even with being deaf. Learn sign language like my friend did. Or drag a loved one with you to meetings like my husband does. He lost the hearing in his right ear after an infection. He can still practice what he does and turns his deaf ear to me all the time, LOl.
My theory is that Obama pushed on HC reform because he knew he'd lose his majority this year, as is typical for any president. But yeah, if more people were employed, more would have HC! The only way he's not going to lose more seats is if unemployment is obviously headed down by this November. That's seriously where his efforts should be focused. I've been unemployed for 8 months and can barely find anything to apply for. And I've never been unemployed in my more than 20 years in the workforce! Plus I know very qualified people who've been unemployed over a year
And what exactly is the Republicans' idea for health care reform? It never came up during Bush's 8 years in office, even though the situation deteriorated. And seriously, there will be no bi-partisanship. Republicans will stand against any and everything put forth by the Dems at this point because this is nothing but a sport for them. They don't care about the common American - only winning elections and holding power.
He did, you just never heard about it because it wasn't made into a crisis of biblical proportions - which it isn't. Here are some of what Bush did or wanted to do.
Signed into law a limited health care tax credit for certain displaced workers under the Trade Adjustment Act of 2002
Signed into law the Medicare Modernization Act of 2003, creating a universal entitlement of unknown cost for pre*scription drug coverage within Medicare.
Refundable health care tax credits to cover millions of uninsured Americans;
The promotion of the recently enacted Health Savings Accounts;
An expansion of traditional public programs— S-CHIP and Medicaid—to cover uninsured children;
An expansion of federally funded community health centers and clinics;
Major changes to the health insurance markets through the establishment of broader association health plans, state-based health insurance pools, and interstate competition among health insurance plans; and
Tax deductions and tax exemptions to enhance long-term care and to cope with a rapidly aging population.
Beyond these various health insurance and tax code changes, the President continues to propose major changes in medical malpractice law. He also favors the enactment of patients’ rights legislation that would facilitate access to specialists and promote information technology to streamline medi*cal records and reduce errors, as well as new initiatives to combat the unresolved problems of waste, fraud, and abuse that continue to plague the giant Medicare and Medicaid programs.
And what exactly is the Republicans' idea for health care reform? It never came up during Bush's 8 years in office, even though the situation deteriorated. And seriously, there will be no bi-partisanship. Republicans will stand against any and everything put forth by the Dems at this point because this is nothing but a sport for them. They don't care about the common American - only winning elections and holding power.
The above post speaks loudly. Bi partisian efforts fell on deaf ears during the Bush years. Democrats ran a very successful media blitz to show how "dumb" bush was, now that was sport. Their efforts were amazing. If they had put that much effort in actually coming to the table, perhaps we would have health care reform now.
Democrats seem impervious to embarrassment as they buy votes for ObamaCare, but their latest move makes even Nebraska's Ben Nelson look cheap: The 87% of Americans who don't belong to a union will now foot the bill for a $60 billion giveaway to those who do.
That was our concern as well. If it was such a great bill, then why did they not let us read it first? Be like having a house built and never reading the contractors contract.
The above post speaks loudly. Bi partisian efforts fell on deaf ears during the Bush years. Democrats ran a very successful media blitz to show how "dumb" bush was, now that was sport. Their efforts were amazing. If they had put that much effort in actually coming to the table, perhaps we would have health care reform now.
Well, maybe if he hadn't lied the country into a war with Iraq, he could have found more support from the Dems. And I think he did just fine demonstrating his stupidity - didn't need the media's help.
He did, you just never heard about it because it wasn't made into a crisis of biblical proportions - which it isn't. Here are some of what Bush did or wanted to do.
Signed into law a limited health care tax credit for certain displaced workers under the Trade Adjustment Act of 2002
Signed into law the Medicare Modernization Act of 2003, creating a universal entitlement of unknown cost for pre*scription drug coverage within Medicare.
Refundable health care tax credits to cover millions of uninsured Americans;
The promotion of the recently enacted Health Savings Accounts;
An expansion of traditional public programs— S-CHIP and Medicaid—to cover uninsured children;
An expansion of federally funded community health centers and clinics;
Major changes to the health insurance markets through the establishment of broader association health plans, state-based health insurance pools, and interstate competition among health insurance plans; and
Tax deductions and tax exemptions to enhance long-term care and to cope with a rapidly aging population.
Beyond these various health insurance and tax code changes, the President continues to propose major changes in medical malpractice law. He also favors the enactment of patients’ rights legislation that would facilitate access to specialists and promote information technology to streamline medi*cal records and reduce errors, as well as new initiatives to combat the unresolved problems of waste, fraud, and abuse that continue to plague the giant Medicare and Medicaid programs.
taxes and fees that promote low income living to obtain benefits
support for illegals
support for taxpayer abortion
support for single payer or public option plan
Oh yeah, those changes really helped a lot of people lol! Hey, we're going to help you out by letting you set aside even more of your paycheck so you can pay higher health care costs. And the tax credits? Those don't help middle class people who've lost their jobs. Tax credits are for the wealthy to take advantage of. The Republican Party is so out of touch, they think the average American has all this money to invest in Wall St., pay for outrageous healthcare premiums, etc.
The problem is that healthcare costs continue to go up and up every year. At some point, this bubble will burst. Republicans aren't going to do a damn thing about it until the fat cats who bought the Republican Party have finished lining their pockets at America's expense.
Oh well, the self employed and small business owners will continue to get screwed without health care costs and policies. I have no faith that Republicans will come to the table and do anything to create any meaningful reform. And with Brown winning the seat, it's almost certainly a dead issue now. Not because it isn't needed, but because it's a Democrat bill and it only makes sense for the Republicans to fight it to the end - only to try and prove that Obama can't get anything through so they'll have a better chance at winning the next election... who cares what the people need.
I'm so tired of politics. Nothing will ever get done because of the politicians representing their party and not the people. Here's to "almost" witnessing a change from the status quo in the health care system. It's back to business as usual - at the mercy of the insurance companies. Wonder how long it will take for my health insurance premium to surpass my mortgage payment.
I keep hearing people using the popular phrase - "America can't afford Obama's health care reform"... some of us can't afford there not to be reform. But again, I'm just a small business owner. I'm not the average American. We tend to be forgotten in discussions like this.
Oh yeah, those changes really helped a lot of people lol! Hey, we're going to help you out by letting you set aside even more of your paycheck so you can pay higher health care costs. And the tax credits? Those don't help middle class people who've lost their jobs. Tax credits are for the wealthy to take advantage of. The Republican Party is so out of touch, they think the average American has all this money to invest in Wall St., pay for outrageous healthcare premiums, etc.
The problem is that healthcare costs continue to go up and up every year. At some point, this bubble will burst. Republicans aren't going to do a damn thing about it until the fat cats who bought the Republican Party have finished lining their pockets at America's expense.
The war in Iraq is water under the bridge and I think we needed to be done with Sadam. I understand you supporting the dictator that ripped the tongues out of people and shredding them feet first, but come on it is done. If Bush lied so did France.
But your point of Bush's propsals not helping people is one I bring up, every program or bill passed in behalf of those who have little will never be enough to satisfy you all. At some point you have to close the checkbook.
Oh yeah, those changes really helped a lot of people lol! Hey, we're going to help you out by letting you set aside even more of your paycheck so you can pay higher health care costs. And the tax credits? Those don't help middle class people who've lost their jobs. Tax credits are for the wealthy to take advantage of. The Republican Party is so out of touch, they think the average American has all this money to invest in Wall St., pay for outrageous healthcare premiums, etc.
The problem is that healthcare costs continue to go up and up every year. At some point, this bubble will burst. Republicans aren't going to do a damn thing about it until the fat cats who bought the Republican Party have finished lining their pockets at America's expense.
Your statement is that Bush did nothing - which is incorrect. I didn't say I agreed with all of it - but he did do something. I am in favor of direct patient/doctor relationships and a removal of government except in basic regulations.
Regarding tax credits - yeah, if you lost your job, then you would not pay income taxes since there would be no income - and if you pay no income taxes, you shouldn't get a tax cut. But if the wealthy (who may own a business) has more money because they were able to keep more of their money, they would be more able to hire the person that lost his job.
Answer this - Why do healthcare costs increase every year?
Regarding the lining of pockets... Have you checked out Obama, Geithner, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, and the big banks?
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