Palin to appear on Oprah (states, claim, votes, million)
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People are really underestimating how popular this woman is, and I think it's because they're afraid of the political might of her possible constituency. Let her run. Why not?
She's no less qualified than Obama was. And so she's not as articulate as we'd like? So? Most Americans aren't either. We don't label the entire country as stupid. She's not politically minded? Okay.
The majority of American executive office members weren't either. And they helped shape this great nation.
Let politics do its thing. She'll either win or lose, but don't say she can't even run.
I agree - let her run. If the Repubs give her the nomination, they deserve to lose again - and they will.
Re her qualifications vs Obama's. You really have to be kidding. She lacks all manner of intellectual curiosity and attended 5 colleges before getting BA in communications. She governed a state with a population smaller than my mother's condo community. She's married to a man who believes that state should secede from the US. Plus, the church she attended believes in witch doctors and that when the end times come, the chosen will flock to Alaska. Yeah, she's more qualified than Obama.
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so she's not as articulate as we'd like? So? Most Americans aren't either.
I, for one, would not like to see "most Americans" in the White House.
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The majority of American executive office members weren't either. And they helped shape this great nation.
Tell me you're not really comparing Palin to the Founding Fathers???
Popular with whom? That is the important question. McCain will forever regret the day that he allowed the Neocon Bill Kristol ram Palin down his throat. What a sorry state of affairs that anyone could ever entertain the notion of having such a self-serving, money and attention craving quitter come close to being a serious candidate for POTUS. The thoght of it is like something out af a sci-fi movie. Too bizarre to compehend. She would never run because she would never come close to succeeding. She is scary in her delusional irresponsibility to put herself out there as if she has anything seriously substantial to offer the American people other than the far, far right wing lunatic fringe. She validates their existance. She's got a strange vibe and gives many the creeps.
McCain lost because of two reasons:
He abandoned the strongest members of his base to appease liberal and independent voters. Stupid. With Obama as their guy, he was never gonna win them over. Fact. The right vote more confidently than the left, so if he kept with his conservative roots, he may have posed a stronger chance. Fact.
Second, yes, Palin hurt him. A lot. But I think a lot of it had to do with the fact that she didn't know what she was getting into, and not so much her politics. She was unknown. Had Palin 2009 ran in 2008, it'd be a different story. How intelligent she was had little to do with it. Everyone knows VPs don't do much anyway. Unless your Dick Cheney.
Finally, I think if Palin ran, she would have a chance at winning, even though I'd never vote for her. It's still to early to say, but it really depends how the next 3 years play out for Obama, and who will run for the GOP Presidential race in 2012.
You can tell when someone is out there that may actually affect American politics for the better, because the left feels the need to rabidly attack her.
If she were as stupid and unimportant as the left says, they wouldn't be saying anything at all.
They can demean Palin as much as they want, but the more they speak out against her, the more it shows that they're scared of the right actually standing up and taking this country back from the socialist left.
I agree - let her run. If the Repubs give her the nomination, they deserve to lose again - and they will.
Re her qualifications vs Obama's. You really have to be kidding. She lacks all manner of intellectual curiosity and attended 5 colleges before getting BA in communications.
This statement kind of makes me sick. My mom took 10 years to get her BA. She's not stupid just because it took her that long. Life happens. I'm not judging Palin's intelligence for that.
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She governed a state with a population smaller than my mother's condo community.
She still governed a state. Exec experience Obama does not have.
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She's married to a man who believes that state should secede from the US. Plus, the church she attended believes in witch doctors and that when the end times come, the chosen will flock to Alaska.
I said the same thing about Clinton that I will say now. I don't really care about someone's personal beliefs or relationships. Can you effectively run the government? If yes, then okay.
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I, for one, would not like to see "most Americans" in the White House. Tell me you're not really comparing Palin to the Founding Fathers???
I was not. What I was saying was that qualifications change over time, clearly, but I'm not gonna rule out someone entirely because they don't fit a particular set of 'rules'. Our nation was shaped by people who would NEVER win office now because of various lack of education or skillsets. They did fine despite this. Her not being articulate or from an ivy league school or from a small state is not enough for me to rule her out.
I didn't vote for her because I didn't feel she was prepared. And because she ran unprepared, I labeled her as naive. but that's just me.
You can tell when someone is out there that may actually affect American politics for the better, because the left feels the need to rabidly attack her.
If she were as stupid and unimportant as the left says, they wouldn't be saying anything at all.
They can demean Palin as much as they want, but the more they speak out against her, the more it shows that they're scared of the right actually standing up and taking this country back from the socialist left.
Didn't you guys have this country for the last pitiful 8 years? And I'm sorry to say, Palin is not a threat in the least, she is a caricature of herself. She's hilarious, amusing, a train wreck but certainly not a threat. If she were, McCain would've gotten elected, right? I thought everyone loved her so much....guess that didn't pan out the way you guys thought it would. Oh well.
Didn't you guys have this country for the last pitiful 8 years? And I'm sorry to say, Palin is not a threat in the least, she is a caricature of herself. She's hilarious, amusing, a train wreck but certainly not a threat. If she were, McCain would've gotten elected, right? I thought everyone loved her so much....guess that didn't pan out the way you guys thought it would. Oh well.
Nope. Bush, who fell FAR away from his conservative base after about his first 3 years, was in charge. Not a true conservative. McCain wasn't a true conservative either.
Nope. Bush, who fell FAR away from his conservative base after about his first 3 years, was in charge. Not a true conservative. McCain wasn't a true conservative either.
Right, that always seem to be the "go to" answer whenever that's brought up yet these same people fully supported Bush & McCain. Strange.
You can tell when someone is out there that may actually affect American politics for the better, because the left feels the need to rabidly attack her.
If she were as stupid and unimportant as the left says, they wouldn't be saying anything at all.
They can demean Palin as much as they want, but the more they speak out against her, the more it shows that they're scared of the right actually standing up and taking this country back from the socialist left.
How do you think Palin could affect America for the better, what actual ideas does she have on any of the issues? She gets attacked because she does not get her facts straight and we know what she does when the pressure gets high, she quits her job and plays the victim. Not qaualities most Americans are interested in having in their reps.
Untrue, so long as she keeps making statements based on half truths people will reply, silence would make some think she might be right on something. The far right scares no one, they are a whinny bunch but lack ideas and the vast majority know it. There is a problem when a group of people keep making unfounded accusations and predictions that do not come true, people stop believing anything they say. The right would be far better served if they got their own house in order before attempting to point fingers at everyone else. Try coming up with so viable answers to the issues facing the nation, try working with the Demos, find candidates that can do both of the above. If the GOp does not get it's own house in order they will not be gaining much iground n the political arena. In order for the GOP to win they must find candidates that their own members can back, McCain was attacked by his own party when he ran against Bush and he never had the full support of the Party. Candidates will also have to draw in Independent voters, meaning they will have to me more towards the center than far right, meaning they will not be a tool of far right. We shall see if the GOP can get it's act together in time for the next elections, sadly, right now I am not seeing much in the way of that happening.
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WOW! I am amazed on how much hate there is toward SP just b/c she is conservative. If she was a liberal she would have been on Oprah during the election instead of being banned like during the election. All she did was just run along side old man river (who I never liked anyways) as a VP.
PS: Yes by having her stay out of the lower 48 will make everyone's life better...GIVE ME A BREAK!
I hate her because she's an idiot who never would have gotten the nomination if she hadn't been an attractive woman. There are better qualified Republican women who were passed over, there are better qualified men who got passed over. The campaign thought the only way they could compete with Obama was to choose a woman. I lost a lot of respect for McCain because of that.
It's not just another show booking for Oprah. She's going whole hog this season to try to recover from the ratings tumble she took last season when her audience slid to under 7 million viewers. And, during one awful week in July, "The Oprah Winfrey Show" suffered its smallest ratings since its debut way back in 1985.
Industry navel gazers speculated Oprah had turned off some of her conservative viewers -- or, more accurately, they had turned her off -- when she not only endorsed then presidential candidate Barack Obama but even campaigned for him. (Palin, of course, was the running mate of Obama's rival, Sen. John McCain.)
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She still governed a state. Exec experience Obama does not have.
The country is definitely paying the price for his inexperience.
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Second, yes, Palin hurt him. A lot.
Incorrect. Palin energized the "base", who were NOT keen on McCain. Many held their noses to vote for him. Those gigantic crowds that came to the rallies did not come to see McCain.
The reason they lost was the financial meltdown, perfectly timed I might add.
Before that, McCain/Palin were leading by approx 5 points.
Given all that, they only lost by 6% and approximately 800,000 combined votes in FL, NC, VA, IN, OH gave obama the victory. Flip those traditionally red states and he loses.
Check it out. The numbers don't lie and these numbers should not in any way comfort the Left. They like to claim it was a "landslide" - it was anything but (electorally, yes, but the actually vote count in those 5 states, NO).
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