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Old 10-25-2009, 08:54 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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Possibly not, but you Obama haters would probably like to see Americans die, just so you can say, "see, I told you so", it's like a cheney broken record.
According to the OP, maybe the current H1N1 deaths can be blamed on President Obama already.

The OP did not state that at all.

But just for your info here you go. Obama dropped the ball and left us in a position of not having enough vaccines around to cover the people needed.

So, in this case and in his words, it was not cause for alarm.


April 27, 2009

Why did the idiot wait so long to respond to an issue such as this.
Was he not on top of the situation and why not?


President Obama said on Monday that the growing number of cases of swine flu in the United States and abroad was “not a cause for alarm,” but he sought to assure Americans that the government was taking precautions to prepare for the prospect of a global health pandemic.
“We are closely monitoring the emerging cases of swine flu in the United States,” Mr. Obama said, speaking at the National Academy of Sciences. “This is obviously the cause for concern and requires a heightened state of alert, but it’s not a cause for alarm.”


What happened to the heightened state of alert he mentioned? Did he just forget about it?
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Old 10-25-2009, 08:54 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Once again you do not understand the chain of command.

Bush is NOT allowed to react first, the Mayor is responsible and knew this was coming weeks in advance and did nothing. Did not even follow the procedures in place in case this did happen.

Then, the Governor steps in, only the Governor can call for a state of emergency to get the the ball rolling with the feds.

Bush was not allowed to react until the liberal Governor asked him to get involved.

Just to let you know because you seem to have no clue, Bush had the National Guard sitting outside of NO a day before Katrina hit and your liberal Mayor wanted to be a hero and would NOT allow them to come in and help people out of NO.

Some hero he was causing the deaths of many people.

The mayor and the Governor should have been investigate for crimes on American citizens for not following the planned exit strategy already in place. This was the crime here.

Now, Obama has told us that this H1N1 was nothing to worry about, of course he GOT IT WRONG AGAIN and mis called this one.

If he had not been sitting back on his heels we would have had plenty of time to make and get more vaccine to those who need it. Instead he sit on his butt and did nothing for months.

So yes, his lack of knowledge and putting this on the back burner of things to do now show his lack of ability to multi task and sort out priorities.

So we can safely say he dropped the ball on this one.
The fact remains that the US government was able to reach the Tsunami victims in Thailand faster than they reached New Orleans.

I would call that a BIG FAT BUSH FAILURE!

To try to equate the fact that the Bush administration cared not that poor people (mostly Black) were suffering with Obama's (fantastic) handling of the H1N1 is pure Right Wing desperation.
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Old 10-25-2009, 08:56 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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The OP did not state that at all.

But just for your info here you go. Obama dropped the ball and left us in a position of not having enough vaccines around to cover the people needed.

So, in this case and in his words, it was not cause for alarm.


April 27, 2009

Why did the idiot wait so long to respond to an issue such as this.
Was he not on top of the situation and why not?


President Obama said on Monday that the growing number of cases of swine flu in the United States and abroad was “not a cause for alarm,” but he sought to assure Americans that the government was taking precautions to prepare for the prospect of a global health pandemic.
“We are closely monitoring the emerging cases of swine flu in the United States,” Mr. Obama said, speaking at the National Academy of Sciences. “This is obviously the cause for concern and requires a heightened state of alert, but it’s not a cause for alarm.”


What happened to the heightened state of alert he mentioned? Did he just forget about it?
That was 6 months ago.....do you remember when there were cases of this flu & people got hysterical for a very short period & then it died down? I do.
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Old 10-25-2009, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Keonsha, Wisconsin
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WTF are you talking about??
They don't know.
Days and days passed while reporters (MSM) were reporting of the hard times of Katrina, but, the administration must have had a news blackout or a power failure while the struggles and lives were lost. The bush administration must not have known what was going on in the aftermath of Katrina, but, we Americans could clearly see the news across the rest of the nation of a humanitarian disaster in the making, while the administration did nothing immediate. But, it was poor blacks folks mainly that suffered. Maybe the previous administration thought they weren't important enough worth saving?
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Old 10-25-2009, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Keonsha, Wisconsin
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April 27, 2009
7 months ago. H1N1 died down, then came back. did you miss that?

I don't like how you refer to president Obama as an idiot either. That could be construed as an inflammatory remark. Please try to have a little more respect for the office of President will you? You know if you called someone on this forum an idiot and the other person reported the remark, you would probably receive a warning or an infraction. just sayin'.
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Old 10-25-2009, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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Originally Posted by Sunny-Days90 View Post
The OP did not state that at all.

But just for your info here you go. Obama dropped the ball and left us in a position of not having enough vaccines around to cover the people needed.

So, in this case and in his words, it was not cause for alarm.


April 27, 2009

Why did the idiot wait so long to respond to an issue such as this.
Was he not on top of the situation and why not?


President Obama said on Monday that the growing number of cases of swine flu in the United States and abroad was “not a cause for alarm,” but he sought to assure Americans that the government was taking precautions to prepare for the prospect of a global health pandemic.
“We are closely monitoring the emerging cases of swine flu in the United States,” Mr. Obama said, speaking at the National Academy of Sciences. “This is obviously the cause for concern and requires a heightened state of alert, but it’s not a cause for alarm.”


What happened to the heightened state of alert he mentioned? Did he just forget about it?
Exactly what would a heightened state of alert or alarm or whatever back in April have done to change anything now? For that matter, what is a "heightened state of alert"? Are you really under the impression that vaccine manufacturers didn't immediately start working on a vaccine when the flu initially broke out? And that it isn't the POTUS's call about what vaccines are or aren't developed and when those that are developed are put into production? Or how fast the virus grows? What is it that you think Obama should have done? Should be doing? What could he have done that would have stopped he H1N1? What could he do now? Really, you have to stop thinking of him as some sort of god who can work miracles. He isn't.
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Old 10-25-2009, 09:05 PM
 
Location: here
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I know this is way over your head.

In the United States, there are several methods for government response to emergency situations. A state governor or local mayor may declare a state of emergency within his or her jurisdiction. This is common at the state level in response to natural disasters.

Now if Bush has taken your liberal Mayor and your Liberal governor out of the mix and by passed them the liberals would be crying that he overstepped his authority.

In your town, your Mayor has jurisdiction to make sure you are safe from natural disasters, then if they need further help they are to go to the Governor, then the Governor is suppose to go to the Federal level for help.

Your liberal mayor and your liberal Gov did NOTHING of the kind. They waited until it was to late for national help to take effect.

Your loon mayor Nagan would not allow our National guard into the NO area because he wanted to be a damn hero. A hero he was not, a person who caused the deaths of 1000 people he was.
That's not the part of your post that I was referring to. Go back and look at what was bolded.
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Old 10-25-2009, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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There's no need for a Congressional investigation. The supply of vaccines is low because the first step in making the vaccine -- growing the virus in eggs -- turned out to take longer than expected. In no way is that Obama's fault (though I fully expect the crazy right to try to make it his fault). Exactly what is he or his administration suppose to do or have done? The comparison between Bush/Katrina and Obama/H1N1 is simply not valid.
Exactly.

It's not like Obama knew the H1N1 would turn out to be such a big deal and he had no clue that the vaccinations wouldn't grow.

I can't believe these childish partisan threads sometimes. Of all the things in the world to focus on...this is what some people think about?
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Old 10-25-2009, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Keonsha, Wisconsin
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childish partisan threads
But, if you go to the P&OC forums,
https://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...controversies/
the majority of the threads are blaming our newly elected President for something, it doesn't matter what it is, it's just a democratic president to trash and blame for everything under the sun. In fact, the name calling that goes with the territory too, Obama is a village idiot, and idiot, boy, and so forth. They've stopped short of using the N word, which is not a surprize, they know they'd be booted for using that. They're pushing the envelope here.
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Old 10-25-2009, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Over There
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This is simply false. Governor Blanco declared a state of emergency on Friday, 24 hours before Governor Barbour did. The Gulf states jointly requested help from DOD that day as well. Blanco asked for -- and Bush granted -- a federal state of emergency on Saturday. DHS and FEMA were given an across-the-board green light to proceed with existing energency plans and pre-positioned supplies. The storm did not hit until Monday.
You fail to acknowledge that it was Mayor Nagin that did not issue a MANDATORY evacuation until Sunday the storm hit less then 24 hours later. This is what caused all of the problems in the first place. FEMA was there and ready. Had Nagn issued a mandatory evacuation sooner it would not have happen. You can not expect FEMA to come in and save thousands of people in a few hours. Again it sits right at Nagin's feet.


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It's the virus's fault for being a slower-than-average reproducing strain. As one offocial said, even if you yell at it, it doesn't grow any faster.
Ummm yeah that is what I said.
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