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It's not like Obama knew the H1N1 would turn out to be such a big deal and he had no clue that the vaccinations wouldn't grow.
I can't believe these childish partisan threads sometimes. Of all the things in the world to focus on...this is what some people think about?
And just think, if he didn't declare it now & a few thousand more people died in the next say 2 weeks, they'd have something to say about that too. Or, if he declared it say a week or two ago, there'd be something to say about that as well. Personally, I don't think this flu is a big deal but that's just me. It needs to be to the point of Stephen King's The Stand before I panic.
The fact remains that the US government was able to reach the Tsunami victims in Thailand faster than they reached New Orleans.
I would call that a BIG FAT BUSH FAILURE!
To try to equate the fact that the Bush administration cared not that poor people (mostly Black) were suffering with Obama's (fantastic) handling of the H1N1 is pure Right Wing desperation.
And I am sure the fact that the residents were SHOOTING at the people that were there to help them had nothing to do with it.
Once again you do not understand the chain of command. Bush is NOT allowed to react first, the Mayor is responsible and knew this was coming weeks in advance and did nothing. Did not even follow the procedures in place in case this did happen. Then, the Governor steps in, only the Governor can call for a state of emergency to get the the ball rolling with the feds. Bush was not allowed to react until the liberal Governor asked him to get involved.
The storm had not even formed weeks in advance. Bush was asked by Blanco to declare a federal emergency on Saturday and did so. The city and state actually followed the existing disaster plan developed after the Hurricane Pam practice exercise in the summer of 2004 almost to the letter. It was FEMA that failed to deliver and Brown, Chertoff, and Bush who all failed to recognize the seriousness of the situation until it was far too late.
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Originally Posted by Sunny-Days90
Just to let you know because you seem to have no clue, Bush had the National Guard sitting outside of NO a day before Katrina hit and your liberal Mayor wanted to be a hero and would NOT allow them to come in and help people out of NO.
False. Though 40% of the state's National Guard troops were off in Iraq, Blanco was able to put 4,000 troops into the city on Sunday and 1,700 more on Monday as the storm hit. Knowing she would need more, New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson had offered his state's available Guard units on Sunday and Blanco had accepted. But those troops couldn't be sent until approval came from Washington. That arrived on Wednesday. The troops finally moved in on Thursday.
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Some hero he was causing the deaths of many people. The mayor and the Governor should have been investigate for crimes on American citizens for not following the planned exit strategy already in place. This was the crime here.
It's too bad that fabricating information about the disaster is not a crime. The right-wing has done that in spades in a desperate attempt to cover up what was criminally poor performance at every level of the Bush administration. Others certainly made mistakes as well, but those paled in comparison to the blunders of Bush et al.
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Now, Obama has told us that this H1N1 was nothing to worry about, of course he GOT IT WRONG AGAIN and mis called this one.
Do you have a source for that? No, you don't. In fact, the adminstration declared a public health emergency back on April 26.
...we wanted to swear her in right away because we've got a significant public health challenge that requires her immediate attention, and that is the H1N1 flu outbreak.
That's President Obama at the April 29 swearing-in of HHS Sec. Sebelius.
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Originally Posted by Sunny-Days90
If he had not been sitting back on his heels we would have had plenty of time to make and get more vaccine to those who need it. Instead he sit on his butt and did nothing for months. So yes, his lack of knowledge and putting this on the back burner of things to do now show his lack of ability to multi task and sort out priorities. So we can safely say he dropped the ball on this one.
The orders for vaccine production were given last Spring. It takes six months to produce a batch of vaccine once the procedures for it have been set up. You are talking pure partisan trash and nothing more than that. Will you apologize for passing on nothing but bogus information?
ok. Thanks for the info. My point still applies. It's either too much or too little. Some people will find fault with Obama no matter what he does.
Yes, that's quite true. I only wanted to clear up the funding part. Meanwhile, the right-wing will apparently say anything to defend those who are their own and attack those who are not their own. As the result, they seem ever to be in service to untruth.
Now if Bush has taken your liberal Mayor and your Liberal governor out of the mix and by passed them the liberals would be crying that he overstepped his authority.
Interesting that you mention it, since Bush tried to do exactly that in a conference call just before midnight on Saturday. The Mayor and Governor refused Bush's demand to write themselves out of the picture and surrender their authority to the feds. The rest is history.
You fail to acknowledge that it was Mayor Nagin that did not issue a MANDATORY evacuation until Sunday the storm hit less then 24 hours later. This is what caused all of the problems in the first place. FEMA was there and ready. Had Nagn issued a mandatory evacuation sooner it would not have happen. You can not expect FEMA to come in and save thousands of people in a few hours. Again it sits right at Nagin's feet.
Prior to 2005, do you know how many mandatory evacuations of major cities there had been in US history? None. You make it sound like this was some commonplace procedural oversight on Nagin's part. FEMA had been directed to go concurrent with Bush's declaration of a state of emergency on Saturday. Nothing happened. FEMA was nowhere in sight. The whole Bush administration dithered while New Orleans drowned.
The media is also forgetting to mention that the people that have died from the swine flu are people that have already had underlying medical conditions. President obama and his 2 daughters have not received the vaccine, kinda makes you wonder huh?? Google it, type in swine flu money maker and see what comes up....
Not all of them. That's the scary part. Healthy people are dying, too.
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Originally Posted by Sunny-Days90
Once again you do not understand the chain of command.
Bush is NOT allowed to react first, the Mayor is responsible and knew this was coming weeks in advance and did nothing. Did not even follow the procedures in place in case this did happen.
Then, the Governor steps in, only the Governor can call for a state of emergency to get the the ball rolling with the feds.
Bush was not allowed to react until the liberal Governor asked him to get involved.
Just to let you know because you seem to have no clue, Bush had the National Guard sitting outside of NO a day before Katrina hit and your liberal Mayor wanted to be a hero and would NOT allow them to come in and help people out of NO.
Some hero he was causing the deaths of many people.
The mayor and the Governor should have been investigate for crimes on American citizens for not following the planned exit strategy already in place. This was the crime here.
Now, Obama has told us that this H1N1 was nothing to worry about, of course he GOT IT WRONG AGAIN and mis called this one.
If he had not been sitting back on his heels we would have had plenty of time to make and get more vaccine to those who need it. Instead he sit on his butt and did nothing for months.
So yes, his lack of knowledge and putting this on the back burner of things to do now show his lack of ability to multi task and sort out priorities.
So we can safely say he dropped the ball on this one.
This has already been addressed, but I will reiterate. The vaccine manufacturers started in immediately to make the vaccine. The virus didn't grow as fast as other flu viruses (viri?) do. To blame this on Obama is nuts!
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The OP did not state that at all.
But just for your info here you go. Obama dropped the ball and left us in a position of not having enough vaccines around to cover the people needed.
So, in this case and in his words, it was not cause for alarm.
April 27, 2009
Why did the idiot wait so long to respond to an issue such as this.
Was he not on top of the situation and why not?
President Obama said on Monday that the growing number of cases of swine flu in the United States and abroad was “not a cause for alarm,” but he sought to assure Americans that the government was taking precautions to prepare for the prospect of a global health pandemic. “We are closely monitoring the emerging cases of swine flu in the United States,” Mr. Obama said, speaking at the National Academy of Sciences. “This is obviously the cause for concern and requires a heightened state of alert, but it’s not a cause for alarm.”
What happened to the heightened state of alert he mentioned? Did he just forget about it?
They started making the vaccine right away. See above.
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7 months ago. H1N1 died down, then came back. did you miss that?
I don't like how you refer to president Obama as an idiot either. That could be construed as an inflammatory remark. Please try to have a little more respect for the office of President will you? You know if you called someone on this forum an idiot and the other person reported the remark, you would probably receive a warning or an infraction. just sayin'.
Well, unfortunately, most of the RW hate spewers seem to get away with saying a lot on this forum.
7 months ago. H1N1 died down, then came back. did you miss that?
I don't like how you refer to president Obama as an idiot either. That could be construed as an inflammatory remark. Please try to have a little more respect for the office of President will you? You know if you called someone on this forum an idiot and the other person reported the remark, you would probably receive a warning or an infraction. just sayin'.
I wont give him any respect, he does not deserve it. He has to earn it first!
Did you give Bush any respect for 8 years? Answer is no, the hatred and racism toward President Bush was totally ridiculous and far worse then Obama by a long shot.
Obama is not on this forum but I am sure his watchDOGS will let him know that many of us do not appreciate what he is doing to America.
Prior to 2005, do you know how many mandatory evacuations of major cities there had been in US history? None. You make it sound like this was some commonplace procedural oversight on Nagin's part. FEMA had been directed to go concurrent with Bush's declaration of a state of emergency on Saturday. Nothing happened. FEMA was nowhere in sight. The whole Bush administration dithered while New Orleans drowned.
Wrong, the Mayor and the Governor are responsible for this mess period. Did you not see my information.
It is called a chain of command someone most Burger King workers have never learned.
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