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Old 11-26-2009, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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If that's the case why is one SEAL being brought up on charges of assault?

You can't have the cover up of a assault, without a assault in a military court.
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Old 11-26-2009, 08:46 AM
 
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So, without knowing the facts you believe Obama should back the 3 and not the Navy's Judicial branch? Of which he's also CinC?

This isn't war, it's just another lame NeoConfused Obama bash, facts optional and discouraged.
Yup. After 8 years of bush bashing without the facts, gosh darn it, this feels good!. Seriously, obama comes across to me as totally aloof towards support of the military. I think the war goes against his liberal ideology anyhow. He pays more attention to the Cambridge police.
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Old 11-26-2009, 08:57 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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So, without knowing the facts you believe Obama should back the 3 and not the Navy's Judicial branch? Of which he's also CinC?
So, without knowing the facts, you in your own mind convict these seals? No concept of a fair trial? No concept of hearing evidence? You can't have it both ways, you know. Or is it just anti-military spewing? Typical liberal.
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Old 11-26-2009, 09:02 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Yup. After 8 years of bush bashing without the facts, gosh darn it, this feels good!. Seriously, obama comes across to me as totally aloof towards support of the military. I think the war goes against his liberal ideology anyhow. He pays more attention to the Cambridge police.


No, most Bush bashing was based on facts. View the PBS documentary Bush's War and factually refute at least 50% of its contentions, then you can claim Bush bashing without fact.

So, in your mind if Obama supports the entire Judicial branch of the Navy rather than 3 individuals he's being aloof towards the military?

Have anything factual to support that contention or shall we just leave it scored as a baseless, lame ObamaBash?
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Old 11-26-2009, 09:06 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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So, without knowing the facts, you in your own mind convict these seals? No concept of a fair trial? No concept of hearing evidence? You can't have it both ways, you know. Or is it just anti-military spewing? Typical liberal.


WHERE did I ever claim anything about their guilt or innocence? What I said, IF you'd take the trouble to read AND understand, was that NO evidence was presented in that linked article to judge the case either way which made the OP just another lame NeoConfused ObamaBash.

Typical NeoConfused shoot from the lip blather, facts optional and discouraged

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Old 11-26-2009, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Navy seals just doing their job are now on trial.
Navy SEALs Charged Over Alleged Abuse of Terrorist Mastermind – by Stephen Brown | FrontPage Magazine

This is a war, not a game. What is obama doing to back up these guys as commander in chief. This will really show what a ***** he is. We need to support our military and all they do to get up safe from terrorist.
The defense of the Nazis at the Nuremberg trials was that they were, "just following orders."

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Old 11-26-2009, 09:25 AM
 
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WHERE did I ever claim anything about their guilt or innocence? What I said, IF you'd take the trouble to read AND understand, was that NO evidence was presented in that linked article to judge the case either way which made the OP just another lame NeoConfused ObamaBash.

Typical NeoConfused shoot from the lip blather, facts optional and discouraged
No, your implication was that the facts would convict these men and if others don't realize it, they are "neoconfused".

You mention a lack of "facts" in the OP, yet you supply no facts and seem to make a judgement. How omnipotent of you.

Btw, where is Obowma mentioned in the discussion, except by you? Another liberal attempt to deflect the stream of the conversation? You brought up Obowma, for no apparent reason. Another typical liberal tactic.

If you could read and comprehend, perhaps you would temper your attacks just a bit. Of course, since you feel yourself to always be correct, that will never happen.
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Old 11-26-2009, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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No, your implication was that the facts would convict these men and if others don't realize it, they are "neoconfused".

You mention a lack of "facts" in the OP, yet you supply no facts and seem to make a judgement. How omnipotent of you.

Btw, where is Obowma mentioned in the discussion, except by you? Another liberal attempt to deflect the stream of the conversation? You brought up Obowma, for no apparent reason. Another typical liberal tactic.

If you could read and comprehend, perhaps you would temper your attacks just a bit. Of course, since you feel yourself to always be correct, that will never happen.
Obama was brought up in the OP. Guess you should listen to your advice (bolded)


From the original post:
"What is obama doing to back up these guys as commander in chief. This will really show what a ***** he is".


This is a military issue, period.And they will handle it. (unless you now don't support (or trust) the military to do their job)

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Old 11-26-2009, 09:56 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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So, without knowing the facts you believe Obama should back the 3 and not the Navy's Judicial branch? Of which he's also CinC?

This isn't war, it's just another lame NeoConfused Obama bash, facts optional and discouraged.

well, without knowing the facts pbo sure as heck called that cop stupid.

so how do you feel about the facts now?
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Old 11-26-2009, 09:59 AM
 
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well, without knowing the facts pbo sure as heck called that cop stupid.

so how do you feel about the facts now?
What does this have to do with the topic? Deflection that is what.
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