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Old 12-03-2009, 01:43 PM
 
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20 NATO Countries to Send More Troops to Afghanistan

20 NATO Countries to Send More Troops to Afghanistan | Asia | English

NATO says at least 20 countries plan to increase their troop levels in Afghanistan, following U.S. President Barack Obama's announcement of a 30,000-troop boost to the war-torn nation.

NATO spokesman James Appathurai told reporters NATO members had shown a clear determination to support President Barack Obama's strategy in Afghanistan - not just through rhetoric, but by dispatching more troops
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Old 12-03-2009, 01:47 PM
 
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of course, NATO was pushing for this assault.
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Old 12-03-2009, 01:49 PM
 
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of course, NATO was pushing for this assault.
I see. Maybe you should be happy we have other countries willing to fight on our side, so that one day we will get this war wrapped up.
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Old 12-03-2009, 01:52 PM
 
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20 NATO Countries to Send More Troops to Afghanistan

20 NATO Countries to Send More Troops to Afghanistan | Asia | English

NATO says at least 20 countries plan to increase their troop levels in Afghanistan, following U.S. President Barack Obama's announcement of a 30,000-troop boost to the war-torn nation.

NATO spokesman James Appathurai told reporters NATO members had shown a clear determination to support President Barack Obama's strategy in Afghanistan - not just through rhetoric, but by dispatching more troops
This is what the Taliban wants, because more Afghans would stand on their side by supporting them and joining them. The last surge we had from President Obama only made the Taliban stronger by operating on 80% of the country. It would also bring more hatreds towards westerners.

This is a terrible mistake.
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Old 12-03-2009, 01:52 PM
 
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i am not happy. i am watching history repeat itself. it's not enough to just pull up the analogy of the vietnam war, although that would be appropriate as well. just remember 1999:

Main Street Americans ask of the Serbian war, "What in hell are we doing over there?". At Nato's hideous jubilee party, these doubters are the great uninvited.

Such Americans are the dreaded isolationists who haunt the globalist dreams of the Clintons and Blairs (if such men can be said to dream). For their pacific concerns they are vilified as nativists and xenophobes. Why is it, by the way, that those who oppose killing foreigners are the ones called xenophobes?

The Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright, has called isolationism a"cancer". If so, the cancer is congenital. Mrs. Albright may be unfamiliar with the basic foreign-policy statement of the American founding, the Farewell Address of George Washington, in which the father of our country adjured his posterity to "steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the world".

Washington's carcinogenic advice is still regarded as sound by millions of his countrymen. Even at the height of the Cold War, opinion polls found that one -third of the citizenry wanted to bring the boys home from Europe, and, despite nightly lectures by the Instant Balkan Experts of the idiot box, they would really rather sit this one out. But the two parties will not let them do so. Just as in the early 1960s, liberal Democrat technocrats have stumbled into an unpopular and potentially disastrous war, and the Republicans have demanded ... escalation!

now we have the same situation in reverse, with our country verging closer to bankruptcy daily. we have only to look at russia to see what an out of control military budget can do to a country.
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Old 12-03-2009, 01:56 PM
 
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This is what the Taliban wants, because more Afghans would stand on their side by supporting them and joining them. The last surge we had from President Obama only made the Taliban stronger by operating on 80% of the country. It would also bring more hatreds towards westerners.

This is a terrible mistake.
The commanders on the ground disagree with you.

Taliban has been getting stronger over the part five years due to our inaction. It did not start in March. The surge in March was designed to counter the Taliban uprising.
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Old 12-03-2009, 01:58 PM
 
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i am not happy. i am watching history repeat itself. it's not enough to just pull up the analogy of the vietnam war, although that would be appropriate as well. just remember 1999:

Main Street Americans ask of the Serbian war, "What in hell are we doing over there?". At Nato's hideous jubilee party, these doubters are the great uninvited.

Such Americans are the dreaded isolationists who haunt the globalist dreams of the Clintons and Blairs (if such men can be said to dream). For their pacific concerns they are vilified as nativists and xenophobes. Why is it, by the way, that those who oppose killing foreigners are the ones called xenophobes?

The Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright, has called isolationism a"cancer". If so, the cancer is congenital. Mrs. Albright may be unfamiliar with the basic foreign-policy statement of the American founding, the Farewell Address of George Washington, in which the father of our country adjured his
posterity to "steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the world".

Washington's carcinogenic advice is still regarded as sound by millions of his countrymen. Even at the height of the Cold War, opinion polls found that one -third of the citizenry wanted to bring the boys home from Europe, and, despite nightly lectures by the Instant Balkan Experts of the idiot box, they would really rather sit this one out. But the two parties will not let them do so. Just as in the early 1960s, liberal Democrat technocrats have stumbled into an unpopular and potentially disastrous war, and the Republicans have demanded ... escalation! (mail archive)

now we have the same situation in reverse, with our country verging closer to bankruptcy daily.
So, you oppose the war. That is your right. I will not call you a traitor, or unpatriotic if you choose to oppose it.
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Old 12-03-2009, 02:00 PM
 
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Once again, the ObamaBush "moderates" marching in lockstep with the war chief wish to pre-empt any dissension from the anti-war crowd.
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Old 12-03-2009, 02:03 PM
 
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So, you oppose the war. That is your right. I will not call you a traitor, or unpatriotic if you choose to oppose it.
you should oppose it too.

tell me what we will achieve. tell me what we can "win". tell me how this won't possibly bankrupt us since we are already starting out BROKE. do you honestly think we can just keep printing money forever? how will the government take care of the "people" when its credit card is pulled? we don't even have our own borders protected for goodness sake!

i urge everyone to read this short history on the taliban from 2001:
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2001/tst110501.htm (broken link)
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Old 12-03-2009, 02:04 PM
 
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Some of my best friends on this planet are Romanian's I partnered with in Iraq. You can bet our Romanian friends will be there through thick and thin. What bothers me about most NATO nation's are the conditions they impose on their soldiers. For example, Germany will not let its soldiers fight at night. What kind of crapola is that? It's not worth the effort to send a measely 900 troops to Afghanistan if they get to sit around a fire pit and play Rummy all the damn time. (Yes, I am speaking from experience, trust me).
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