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Old 12-08-2009, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Over There
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The law is the law but I am sick and tired of prison. Prison is where people go to become criminally insane and severely traumatized.

It's time for reformation and a kinder more humanistic way of handling violators.

Have a nice day.

OMG really so what should we do with the criminals? Pat them on the head and send them on their way? GMAB people who murder, rape, molest children are ALREADY criminally insane. Prison did not make them that way. I don't do illegal things because I do NOT want to go to prison, We all have a choice and a path to choose make sure you choose the right one and you will not end up in jail. Jail is to damn easy as it is and you want to make it easier. Unbelievable.
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Old 12-08-2009, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Over There
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No, it's managed by state Supreme Court judges who legislate from the bench, urban machine politicians and their public worker union cronies.

NJ wrote the book on re-distributing wealth and it ain't pretty.
You got it. If people in this country want to see what re-distribution is all about come live here. We are in the toilet financially, our education system sucks in most places and we have about the most corrupt politicians other then Chicago in the country.
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Old 12-08-2009, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Bossy Davis,

Does it look like I'm joking. Ughhhhh.
You should be, because that was the first possible take I've ever seen.
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Old 12-08-2009, 01:17 PM
 
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We're racing CA to the bottom of the financial barrel. I mean, we're in horrendous financial shape (in spite of being the most highly taxed) and this is what our beloved politicians focus on
Legalizing same-sex marriage increases revenue and creates jobs. If you're concerned about the financial shape of NJ, it would make sense to support same-sex marriage.
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Old 12-08-2009, 06:53 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Even if it does pass, won't give gays the rights of married straight couples.

Try filing a joint Federal Tax return. Nope can't do it.

Whether I'm for or against, this should be taken up on a Federal level.
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Old 12-08-2009, 06:55 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Legalizing same-sex marriage increases revenue and creates jobs. If you're concerned about the financial shape of NJ, it would make sense to support same-sex marriage.
Please explain?
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Old 12-08-2009, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Legislation to allow same-sex marriage in New Jersey cleared the Senate Judiciary Committee tonight after more than seven hours of emotional debate and testimony, setting the stage for a showdown in the full Senate.

Cheers erupted in the packed hearing room when the committee approved the bill 7 to 6.



Gotta love the picture on this page:

N.J. Senate Judiciary Committee approves gay marriage bill | New Jersey Real-Time News - - NJ.com
Whatever it takes to keep important decisions like this out of the hands of the voters.
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Old 12-08-2009, 07:09 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Please explain?
I think that the poster meant that gay marriage would help the bottom line for a few industries incl hotels, jewelry stores, airplane flights, caterers, photographers, musicians, bakeries, etc. when you think about what goes into planning a wedding, it would help those businesses that could use a good shot in the arm in these times.
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Old 12-08-2009, 07:13 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I think that the poster meant that gay marriage would help the bottom line for a few industries incl hotels, jewelry stores, airplane flights, caterers, photographers, musicians, bakeries, etc. when you think about what goes into planning a wedding, it would help those businesses that could use a good shot in the arm in these times.
Why can't they do this as a civil ceremony?

Nothing will be created by allowing gays to marry.

No one needs the word married, to throw a party, go on vacation, buy a ring...whatever.
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Old 12-08-2009, 07:37 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Why can't they do this as a civil ceremony?

Nothing will be created by allowing gays to marry.

No one needs the word married, to throw a party, go on vacation, buy a ring...whatever.
It's not the same thing.

Equal Marriage NOW: Civil Marriage v. Civil Unions
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