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Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by wjtwet
I do not get it Harry. You guys won the election you have a super majority why is you blame the republicans for blocking health care. You have the 60 votes you do not need the republicans so stop whining its the republicans. harry pretend your a leader and use the 60 voted you have
I actually agree with you. The Democrats have 60 votes. The Constitution of the United States requires 51 (not 60) votes in the Senate to pass legislation. That gives them a majority with 9 votes to spare. Actually they have 10 votes to spare because in the event of a tie, Joe Biden would cast the deciding vote. So I am not accepting any excuses from Reid. Either he wants to serve the people who put him there or he wants to maintain rules that never should have been in place to begin with.
Yeah. Such is the burden of having all the power and then trying to take none of the responsibility. The House and Senate, despite also being inept used to have the buffoon Bush to blame everything on.
I'm a moderate, independent voter and I did vote for Obama. (To be honest, Palin as VP was sufficiently bad to push me Dem). I'm frankly astonished at how all of the sudden people that were anti-war are ok with it because "Bush started it" and that healthcare isn't passing because "republican opposition". I close my eyes and can't tell that Bush has even left office.
Yeah. Such is the burden of having all the power and then trying to take none of the responsibility. The House and Senate, despite also being inept used to have the buffoon Bush to blame everything on.
I'm a moderate, independent voter and I did vote for Obama. (To be honest, Palin as VP was sufficiently bad to push me Dem). I'm frankly astonished at how all of the sudden people that were anti-war are ok with it because "Bush started it" and that healthcare isn't passing because "republican opposition". I close my eyes and can't tell that Bush has even left office.
Because the Dems spent the last number of years blaming the Republicans.
Now it's time for them to take the reign and they can't get past their stigma of still wanting to blame the Republicans even though everyone knows they don't need the Republicans.
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by wjtwet
They have not voted in one Amendment lead by republicans. They did not make the bill with Republican input. They can pass it if they want.
Americans can not affford 1 trillion more dollars
We CAN afford it and we MUST afford it. We can get that money by getting the hell out of Iraq and stopping the big bailouts of the giant monster mega banks. Those alone cost $2 billion.
It seems the Repubs do not want anybody to see what amendments are proposed. Reid wanted them to be posted on the Senate web site. The GOP objected, citing "trust problems"? Could it possibly be that the GOP does not want the public to see what things they actually are proposing?
I doubt that they are not making proposals, it's just what they are proposing that they do not want to be generally seen. Why? Are their proposals so inane and useless, that Reid feels justified in saying the GOP is not engaging with a genuine effort? I don't know, it would be nice so see what has been offered for consideration.
Because anything the GOP proposes is not good for the people and the country.
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by Mathguy
Yeah. Such is the burden of having all the power and then trying to take none of the responsibility. The House and Senate, despite also being inept used to have the buffoon Bush to blame everything on.
I'm a moderate, independent voter and I did vote for Obama. (To be honest, Palin as VP was sufficiently bad to push me Dem). I'm frankly astonished at how all of the sudden people that were anti-war are ok with it because "Bush started it" and that healthcare isn't passing because "republican opposition". I close my eyes and can't tell that Bush has even left office.
I am LIBERAL and you won't hear that from me. And many others are rumbling the same thing. We may be looking for a Ralph Nader on a 3rd party ticket come 2012 if this gang can't get their act together. Lots of us put lots of effort into Obama's election and we feel like we are in GW Bush's 3rd term.
I am LIBERAL and you won't hear that from me. And many others are rumbling the same thing. We may be looking for a Ralph Nader on a 3rd party ticket come 2012 if this gang can't get their act together. Lots of us put lots of effort into Obama's election and we feel like we are in GW Bush's 3rd term.
That is because we elected a salesman instead of a leader.
Why does he need all those advisers, now??
I am LIBERAL and you won't hear that from me. And many others are rumbling the same thing. We may be looking for a Ralph Nader on a 3rd party ticket come 2012 if this gang can't get their act together. Lots of us put lots of effort into Obama's election and we feel like we are in GW Bush's 3rd term.
Ralph is too old now.
Their act is to support Wall Street at any cost,if WS doesn't throughly vett you,you don't get to run, no ifs, ands or buts.
No power on earth can change this,least of all an election.
They do not have 60 votes. Lieberman (who isn't a Democrat anymore anyway) has stated he would join a GOP filibuster, which means they need GOP votes.
Ohh so that's why ole Harry is down on his knees...
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Under the compromise developed by a group of conservative and liberal Democrats, the Senate legislation would no longer include a new government-run insurance program, or "public option," for Americans who do not get coverage through their employers.
Instead, the government would essentially contract with a nonprofit insurer to provide a nationwide plan that would serve as the public option, according to officials briefed on the discussions.
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