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Old 12-09-2009, 06:42 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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His M O is to blame everybody but himself.
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:06 AM
 
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I am not sure which of the uninsured masses you are talking about but they will have to pay for a plan like all of us. If you are 55 and uninsured the bill being discusses says you can buy into Medicare. The operative word for all these plans is "buy."
Yep, "free healthcare" is certainly a misnomer. There are a lot of people that were all for this plan and voted for Obama that are going to get a bill and be like WHAT!!!!????

I'm not opposed to changes to the system, I'm just chuckling that a lot of people that thought they were voting in a free ride for themselves are going to squawk when they get handed the check. I suspect this will predominantly be younger people.
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:16 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Not ALL Republicans are RACIST however ALL Racist are REPUBLICAN!
Care to look back in History a little...

The two parties have flip flopped since their inception.

Republicans use to believe in the principles the Dems do now, and visa-versa.
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Not ALL Republicans are RACIST however ALL Racist are REPUBLICAN!
how do you expalin the great democrat senator Byrd former grand wizard of the KKK
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Old 12-10-2009, 12:50 PM
 
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Care to look back in History a little...

The two parties have flip flopped since their inception.

Republicans use to believe in the principles the Dems do now, and visa-versa.
certainly there was, at some point, some racism in the democratic party:

The complete list of the 21 Democrats who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 includes Senators:

- Hill and Sparkman of Alabama
- Fulbright and McClellan of Arkansas
- Holland and Smathers of Florida
- Russell and Talmadge of Georgia
- Ellender and Long of Louisiana
- Eastland and Stennis of Mississippi
- Ervin and Jordan of North Carolina
- Johnston and Thurmond of South Carolina
- Gore Sr. and Walters of Tennessee
- H. Byrd and Robertson of Virginia
- R. Byrd of West Virginia

Democrat opposition to the Civil Rights Act was substantial enough to literally split the party in two. A whopping 40% of the House Democrats VOTED AGAINST the Civil Rights Act, while 80% of Republicans SUPPORTED it. Republican support in the Senate was even higher. Similar trends occurred with the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which was supported by 82% of House Republicans and 94% of Senate Republicans.

It took the hard work of Republican Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen and Republican Whip Thomas Kuchel to pass the Civil Rights Act (Dirksen was presented a civil rights accomplishment award for the year by the head of the NAACP in recognition of his efforts). Upon breaking the Democrat filibuster of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, Republican Dirksen took to the Senate floor and exclaimed "The time has come for equality of opportunity in sharing in government, in education, and in employment. It will not be stayed or denied. It is here!" (Full text of speech). Sadly, Democrats and revisionist historians have all but forgotten (and intentionally so) that it was Republican Dirksen, not the divided Democrats, who made the Civil Rights Act a reality. Dirksen also broke the Democrat filibuster of the 1957 Civil Rights Act that was signed by Republican President Eisenhower.

history has been rewritten.
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Old 12-10-2009, 09:02 PM
 
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how do you expalin the great democrat senator Byrd former grand wizard of the KKK
Grand Wizard?

In any event ,one explains such by the Christian concept of a reformed sinner seeing the light. His subsequent behavior after his public confession of wrong has confirmed his sincerity.
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Old 12-11-2009, 05:02 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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51 votes are needed to pass the bill, but 60 are needed to stop a GOP filibuster. Now what Reid could do is force it through using Reconciliation, or force the GOP's hand on the filibuster and basically make them read through the Phone Book in order for them to stop a vote.
No, what Reid can do- and what he should do- is use 51 votes to REPEAL the fillibuster for good. That is the worst rule the Senate ever had and it should be done away with. The Senate is already tilted towards small states where nobody lives as it is because whether you are California or North Dakota, you get 2 Senators. It does not need stupid rules like this that tilt even more power to small states.
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Old 12-11-2009, 05:04 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Care to look back in History a little...

The two parties have flip flopped since their inception.

Republicans use to believe in the principles the Dems do now, and visa-versa.
True that.
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Old 12-11-2009, 05:08 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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certainly there was, at some point, some racism in the democratic party:

The complete list of the 21 Democrats who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 includes Senators:

- Hill and Sparkman of Alabama
- Fulbright and McClellan of Arkansas
- Holland and Smathers of Florida
- Russell and Talmadge of Georgia
- Ellender and Long of Louisiana
- Eastland and Stennis of Mississippi
- Ervin and Jordan of North Carolina
- Johnston and Thurmond of South Carolina
- Gore Sr. and Walters of Tennessee
- H. Byrd and Robertson of Virginia
- R. Byrd of West Virginia

Democrat opposition to the Civil Rights Act was substantial enough to literally split the party in two. A whopping 40% of the House Democrats VOTED AGAINST the Civil Rights Act, while 80% of Republicans SUPPORTED it. Republican support in the Senate was even higher. Similar trends occurred with the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which was supported by 82% of House Republicans and 94% of Senate Republicans.

It took the hard work of Republican Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen and Republican Whip Thomas Kuchel to pass the Civil Rights Act (Dirksen was presented a civil rights accomplishment award for the year by the head of the NAACP in recognition of his efforts). Upon breaking the Democrat filibuster of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, Republican Dirksen took to the Senate floor and exclaimed "The time has come for equality of opportunity in sharing in government, in education, and in employment. It will not be stayed or denied. It is here!" (Full text of speech). Sadly, Democrats and revisionist historians have all but forgotten (and intentionally so) that it was Republican Dirksen, not the divided Democrats, who made the Civil Rights Act a reality. Dirksen also broke the Democrat filibuster of the 1957 Civil Rights Act that was signed by Republican President Eisenhower.

history has been rewritten.
That is all history. Yes, the Republican Party used to be the good party and the Democrats were the evil party. I fully agree. But that all changed when Richard Nixon developed "the southern strategy" in which he announced that the Republicans would become the evil party and go after the racist vote in the south. If you look at the list of Senators above, you will see a number of them with R next to their name now- or when they died. People like Dirksen and Kuchell would be ran out of the Republican party today.
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Old 12-11-2009, 10:35 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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I do not get it Harry. You guys won the election you have a super majority why is you blame the republicans for blocking health care. You have the 60 votes you do not need the republicans so stop whining its the republicans. harry pretend your a leader and use the 60 voted you have

Our little friend HARRY it seems likes playing the BLAME GAME, but he himself is perfect NOT.
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