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oh come on this fool needs to MAN UP!!! Ugh, how dare he think that the gov-mint is going to stand there and fund abortions AND his healthcare needs ... please!
-J. Boehner
i believe in China the government has aborted many fetus' because of thier one child policy...who's to say it won't happen here with the bills that are in legislation and that are being passed now as far as our freedoms are concerned?
Would someone on the left please inform us why healthcare should be free. The basic necessities for life are food, shelter, and clothing (according to most), so should those ALSO be free?
Should not a farmer be compensated for his labors,...a builder for his construction,...and a clothier for his garments? If healthcare is to be treated as an entitlement, why should not the other basic necessities?
Please inform the conservatives where the "line is drawn"...
This is off topic. Please feel free to start your own thread.
This is off topic. Please feel free to start your own thread.
He is paying over 10k a year for health care.
No, the post was not off topic. It was in the same vein posted by ray 1945, which got a pass from you.ent from you on that post. If you want only a single-sided argument for universal healthcare, maybe the thread should have been posted in Huffington.
The man spent twenty-four years gainfully employed, twenty-two of which he had insulin-dependent diabetes. Obviously he didn't see the necessity to provide for the possibility of job loss/insurance loss.
It's easy to fall for the headline in that story as a tear jerker.
The reality is that government run health care isn't what people seem to think it is. They seem to believe that:
1. Health care will be free
2. Anything you want and need will be provided
Looking at all the proposed UHC proposals and studying other socialized medicine countries shows neither is true.
Health care ends up more expensive due to the extra layer of government bureaucracy. It appears "free" but it isn't. The government just takes the money from another pocket. It's bait and switch. You just pay for it instead with 17.5% VAT taxes and 63% income taxes.
Also with UHC, the government decides who gets what. The blogger that wrote that story seems to think under UHC he'll get all his diabetes stuff for free and whatever he needs but it has NEVER worked that way in any country with UHC.
It's easy to fall for the headline in that story as a tear jerker.
The reality is that government run health care isn't what people seem to think it is. They seem to believe that:
1. Health care will be free
2. Anything you want and need will be provided
Looking at all the proposed UHC proposals and studying other socialized medicine countries shows neither is true.
Health care ends up more expensive due to the extra layer of government bureaucracy. It appears "free" but it isn't. The government just takes the money from another pocket. It's bait and switch. You just pay for it instead with 17.5% VAT taxes and 63% income taxes.
Also with UHC, the government decides who gets what. The blogger that wrote that story seems to think under UHC he'll get all his diabetes stuff for free and whatever he needs but it has NEVER worked that way in any country with UHC.
First of all, he is not a blogger, he's a Pulitzer prize winning writer.
Second, he is expecting nothing for free. He is currently paying over 10k a year toward his health care without complaint.
kinda the basis of a capitalist society. Each of us has a skill that we trade, barter, or sell in exchange for other goods and services. Some are perceived to be worth more than others.
Yes, but doesn't a for-profit health care system require a constant stream of sick people to survive? Where is the motivation to get people healthy and to keep them that way?
So all the doctors, nurses, pharmacists and so on should be made to volunteer?
Of course not. Health care professionals should be paid for their work. I'm referring to the health care industry - hospital corporations, big Pharma, insurance companies - that is responsible to stockholders and has profit as its first priority, not the health and well-being of patients.
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