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Old 12-28-2009, 09:16 PM
 
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I didn't say he spoke for them, what I said was this type of hate speech is pervasive and the Muslim community allows it to continue. Lets take this speech from Abdul Rahman Ibn Abdul Aziz as-Sudai who is the Iman of the Grand Mosque in Mecca:
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http://www.adl.org/anti_semitism/ara...i-Semitism.pdf

Read history and you will know that yesterday's Jews were bad predecessors and
today's Jews are worse successors. They are killers of prophets and the scum of
the earth. God hurled his curses and indignation on them and made them monkeys
and pigs and worshippers of tyrants. These are the Jews, a continuous lineage of
meanness, cunning, obstinacy, tyranny, evil, and corruption. They sow corruption
on earth…
O Muslims, the Islamic nation today is at the peak of conflict with the enemies of
yesterday, today, and tomorrow, with the grandsons of Bani-Quraydah, Al-Nadiri,
and Qaynuqa [Jewish tribes in the early days of Islam]. May God's curses follow
them until the Day of Judgment…. The conflict is exploding and magnifying, the
exploitation and greed are increasing, and the indulgence in humbling Arabs and
Muslims and their holy places has become very serious by the world rodents that
have revoked pacts and agreements. Treachery, sabotage, and cunning dominate
their minds and injustice and tyranny flow in their veins… They cannot but
remain arrogant, reckless, corrupt, and harmful. Thus, they deserve the curse of
God, His angels, and all people.
I don't know what the hierarchy of the Islam faith is but I'd imagine at the very least this would be like a Cardinal in the Catholic church giving a sermon.
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Old 12-28-2009, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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I don't know what the hierarchy of the Islam faith is but I'd imagine at the very least this would be like a Cardinal in the Catholic church giving a sermon.
It's more like the hierarchy of the protestant church. Who speaks for them?
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Old 12-28-2009, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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How can MILLIONS of Muslim extremists be compared to maybe thousands of Christian extremists anyway?
Link please to where these millions of Muslim extremists are.
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Old 12-28-2009, 09:38 PM
 
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Here's a link to the millions of Christian extremists:

RNC: Republican National Committee | GOP
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Old 12-28-2009, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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What are you talking about? Where are you getting these lies?!?!?

Obama was briefed on the plane incident immediately after it happened. He was issuing statements and directives through the chain of command almost immediately and had already ordered an entire assessment of the system by the time he gave his speech (not to mention Gibbs was speaking already). Obama was even briefed on the sick guy in the bathroom on the same flight 2 days later (LONG after he'd been dealing with the first incident).

Seriously - your ignorance on this subject is perplexing. Stop spreading lies. Stick to facts.

I honestly want to know who told you he wasn't briefed for 72 hours. We need to identify these lies and out them when they are regurgitated.
Obama was briefed 3 hours after the most significant terrorist attack in the US since 9/11.
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Old 12-28-2009, 09:43 PM
 
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Obama was briefed 3 hours after the most significant terrorist attack in the US since 9/11.
So.
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Old 12-28-2009, 09:53 PM
 
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Obama was briefed 3 hours after the most significant terrorist attack in the US since 9/11.
a. So, we're agreed the woman lied by claiming 72 hours.

b. I know for a fact that he was aware of it almost immediately. Whether he sat down with advisors and was given explicit details I don't know. Either way, the response was handled very well. It was the screening that wasn't.
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Old 12-28-2009, 09:56 PM
 
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He forgot to have them show us the color coded M&Ms.
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Old 12-28-2009, 10:28 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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a. So, we're agreed the woman lied by claiming 72 hours.

b. I know for a fact that he was aware of it almost immediately. Whether he sat down with advisors and was given explicit details I don't know. Either way, the response was handled very well. It was the screening that wasn't.


You say that you are positive with fact, were you there! How would you know exactly what happened with facts, if you were not there, to see what actually took place. You think the response was handled very well, while others don't share your opinion.
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Old 12-29-2009, 04:23 PM
 
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You say that you are positive with fact, were you there! How would you know exactly what happened with facts, if you were not there, to see what actually took place. You think the response was handled very well, while others don't share your opinion.
Because it was reported on the news that he was aware far less than 3 hours after the incident.

And it's an established fact that the response was precisely how the system is supposed to work, so if you think something should have gone better than perhaps you should work in Homeland Security because you must know something they don't.

The front side - how a bomb got on a plane - remains deeply disconcerting.
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