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The decimation of little children on the other side of the planet are of no importance to them, especially since they are poor and brown. Most of the right wing Christians are pro war (violence) and have no problem with it. The same group are also against universal health care for their fellow Americans and use harsh judgment as a means to justify their opinion. I highly doubt these were the principles Jesus meant we should follow.
They will always find a way to condone their advocacy of violence, lack of empathy and general selfishness within the Bible, or worse yet ask where it says they should not act that way. They are not followers of Christ, but opposite: Fakes who cherry pick what they want out of the bible to validate their insane world views.
The decimation of little children on the other side of the planet are of no importance to them, especially since they are poor and brown. Most of the right wing Christians are pro war (violence) and have no problem with it. The same group are also against universal health care for their fellow Americans and use harsh judgment as a means to justify their opinion. I highly doubt these were the principles Jesus meant we should follow.
They will always find a way to condone their advocacy of violence, lack of empathy and general selfishness within the Bible, or worse yet ask where it says they should not act that way. They are not followers of Christ, but opposite: Fakes who cherry pick what they want out of the bible to validate their insane world views.
lol When liberals donate as much as those Christians you are bashing get back to me about Christians are selfish and lack empathy
Its just amazing how liberals wants others to give their money while the liberals dont give their own money. Yet they sit in a chair behind a computer monitor and go on and on about how terrible christians are, how selfish they are and bash the living heck out of them when they are wrong.
It turns out that this idea that liberals give more…is a myth. Of the top 25 states where people give an above average percent of their income, 24 were red states in the last presidential election. Who Gives and Who Doesn't? - ABC News
-Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood.
-Residents of the states that voted for John Kerry in 2004 gave smaller percentages of their incomes to charity than did residents of states that voted for George Bush.
And it goes on Conservatives give 3.5 to charity while those living in the blue states which are richer gives 1.9%
So please feel free to sit here and make some more bogus claims about how uncaring and selfish and so on christians are when the do and give more then the liberals that claim to care more and have the empathy you say christians lack
The decimation of little children on the other side of the planet are of no importance to them, especially since they are poor and brown. Most of the right wing Christians are pro war (violence) and have no problem with it. The same group are also against universal health care for their fellow Americans and use harsh judgment as a means to justify their opinion. I highly doubt these were the principles Jesus meant we should follow.
They will always find a way to condone their advocacy of violence, lack of empathy and general selfishness within the Bible, or worse yet ask where it says they should not act that way. They are not followers of Christ, but opposite: Fakes who cherry pick what they want out of the bible to validate their insane world views.
There goes that 'right wing Christian' thing again. Lets clarify things a bit. My politics, and my religion, remain very separated from each other. By most definitions, I would be considered a 'conservative' , thus leaning to the right in my politics, and I am a Christian. I do not attend services regular like, feel no need to burn up a perfectly good day off inside a church when I can talk to God just fine out hunting yotes with my son. I despise war, and I come from a strong military background. I , wholeheartedly, support our fighting forces, remember that no one despises war more than those who fight them. You speak of harsh judgments, used to justify an opinion, is this not what you are doing here? Using peoples beliefs as your premise, you accuse them of being in favor of genocidal mania steeped in apathy for the suffering of children, because they have brown skin? Forgive my confusion, but I can't make heads or tails of this.
No, an "eye for an eye" represents vengeance and violence. Equality has nothing to do with it. If you feel compelled to "return the favor", you are just as guilty as your alleged perpetrator. I doubt even the Christian god would view that differently. What? Does the Christian god look down from above and cheer everyone on to take their distorted view of justice into their own hands? I don't think so. Gandhi was correct: an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
yea well whatever. an eye for an eye still represents equality.
I have no idea what you just said....but it's probably for the best.
My point is...Christianity does not = morality.....even us evil Atheists can live good, moral lives without sacrificing children or worshipping the make believe devil.
The meaning of morals is treating others like you like to be treated...simple as that....you mean we can't possibly do that without believing in the God myth?
"Right wing brand"? Uh huh. Now that this groups existence has been established, could you tell me what the 'left wing brand" of Christianity is? I did not realize that religion, Christianity in particular, had divided into 'left' and 'right' wings. I thought religion was described with terms like 'fundamentalist','extremist' etc. From what I have seen on here, just being a Christian is enough to be described thus by many.
I think people conflate politics and religion and start thinking there are left and right "wings" to Christianity as a result of terms like "right-wing brand of Christianity" such as the topic of this thread states.
Right-wing and left-wing are political wings.
However, in Christianity, there is a range of "conservative" to "liberal", also. I guess the more appropriate terms are "fundamental" and "liberal". Anyway, these don't translate directly to political conservatism or liberalism. In other words, a person can be fundamentalist Christian while being poltically liberal, or he can be a liberal Christian who is politically conservative.
I think a lot of people who want to be fundamentalist or conservative evangelical Christians think that this requires them to be politically conservative also, and the political conservative parties/organizations/politicians play off this in order to gather up their votes. It's wrong, but I think that kind of confusion is why so many evangelicals think they owe loyalty to politically conservative groups and politicans.
The irony is that a lot of conservative "right-wing" Christians are actually pretty liberal in their Christianity. I know several people who go to evangelical churches with female ministers/pastors/priests, modern rock-n-roll type of services, and have very liberal views on divorce and lifestyle but are strictly conservative politically. I'm the opposite - I'm very orthodox and fundamentalist in my Christianity, but in term of politics (USA) I'm liberal.
I don't think there is a "correct" political alignment for Christians per se, but I would hope Christians align themselves politically based on their faith. Unfortunately, in the "Christian (political) Right" I see people who base their Christianity on their politics rather than the other way around. At least, that's how it strongly appears to me.
yea well whatever. an eye for an eye still represents equality.
Perhaps, but that's not what Christianity teaches. Christianity teaches the "eye for an eye" standard in order to set up the greater standard of forgiveness, sacrifice, and serving God by serving others.
Here is what the Christian Bible says about vengeance, amongst other things that aren't "fair" by man's standards:
Romans 12
14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.
15 Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep.
16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.
17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.
18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
lol When liberals donate as much as those Christians you are bashing get back to me about Christians are selfish and lack empathy
Its just amazing how liberals wants others to give their money while the liberals dont give their own money. Yet they sit in a chair behind a computer monitor and go on and on about how terrible christians are, how selfish they are and bash the living heck out of them when they are wrong.
It turns out that this idea that liberals give more…is a myth. Of the top 25 states where people give an above average percent of their income, 24 were red states in the last presidential election. Who Gives and Who Doesn't? - ABC News
-Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood.
-Residents of the states that voted for John Kerry in 2004 gave smaller percentages of their incomes to charity than did residents of states that voted for George Bush.
And it goes on Conservatives give 3.5 to charity while those living in the blue states which are richer gives 1.9%
So please feel free to sit here and make some more bogus claims about how uncaring and selfish and so on christians are when the do and give more then the liberals that claim to care more and have the empathy you say christians lack
For those who think Christianity should be liberal. What would Jesus think about TARP and all the bank and big business bailouts? All of these Democrat backed programs looted the middle class taxpayers and ramped up our nations defecit in order to save the wealthy elite. Contrary to popular belief it was the religious right, tea party protesters not the libs who were looking out for the interests of the common person.
For those who think Christianity should be liberal. What would Jesus think about TARP and all the bank and big business bailouts? All of these Democrat backed programs looted the middle class taxpayers and ramped up our nations defecit in order to save the wealthy elite. Contrary to popular belief it was the religious right, tea party protesters not the libs who were looking out for the interests of the common person.
OMG. unbelievable
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Lets clarify things a bit. My politics, and my religion, remain very separated from each other. By most definitions, I would be considered a 'conservative' , thus leaning to the right in my politics, and I am a Christian. I do not attend services regular like, feel no need to burn up a perfectly good day off inside a church when I can talk to God just fine out hunting yotes with my son. I despise war, and I come from a strong military background. I , wholeheartedly, support our fighting forces, remember that no one despises war more than those who fight them. You speak of harsh judgments, used to justify an opinion, is this not what you are doing here? Using peoples beliefs as your premise, you accuse them of being in favor of genocidal mania steeped in apathy for the suffering of children, because they have brown skin? Forgive my confusion, but I can't make heads or tails of this.
