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Only in America can one get a HS diploma and end up making the equivalent of $71/hour hooking up door handles and retire to Florida with a nice pension and covered healthcare
Why does anyone bother with college when you can get a nice union job and be set for life ?
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I knew you couldn't answer the question. I twisted nothing, I asked a question that you can't answer.
Your so called "question" was a twist & spin that amounted to a baiting/trolling post and nothing else. Nothing to answer.
You read into it, what your imagination wants.
We could save GM and so many other companies money by having a single-payer health care system or a national health care system.
As far as pensions, I think too many people have been screwed out of their pensions and other things when a company goes under, restructures, is sold, etc. What's so bad about a company keeping an obligation to its employees?
I agree, greed and incompetence brought GM and Chrysler down. Have you ever seen Roger and Me?
A lot of people just don't get it, that the U.S.A is at a huge disadvantage in the world market with all our industries and consumer goods produced in this country i.e. they're not playing on a level field with foreign factories. We're completing against countries who have universal health care for their workers and their manufacturers don't have to build that cost into their products the way we do. That's the reason why GM dumped their health care responsibilities to workers and retirees through VEBA.
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I am pro-union. Except for a p/t job while a student I have always worked union and don't plan a change. I will retire a union employee if I have a say.
When our younger grads. state that unions are outdated, that globalization and 'free' trade is a must (because it will enrich the economies of the WORLD) two things come to mind. 1-where in the world are they, and what country's economy is most important to them. 2-the fact that relatively few jobs are still union and are nearing extinction.
I believe in our free enterprise democracy--but I strongly reject unfettered capitalism and the forces that rampant corporatism has arrayed against our middle class. The political, business, and academic elites are waging nearly a war on Americans and unless it is checked I doubt the middle class can survive.
Remember, most of our universities are not bastions of independent thinking, social scholorship and activism. Instead, they are dependent and rely on either the Fed. Gov't. or the favor of corporations and the wealthy for funding their very existence.
Untill we have changes in the ways, means and the necessary regulation of the manner of American commerce and the enforcement of the same, we will see only superficial improvement--the lady in the harbor has had "because I can" stuffed up her nose too many times.
Also, till genetic engineering becomes prominent and the darker side of human nature becomes extinct I will prefer to work union, I need and deserve the security and I don't mind paying my union dues.
Labor Unions are actually pushing for illegal alien participation in your Union now. They have a lot of legal immigrants now, coming in on Union supported Visas, to stagnate wages and benefits, even reducing them to be "competitive" on the world market. Even now with the unemployment rates we are seeing, 35,000 a month come into the US on worker visas, to be planted into Unions. It is the only way Unions can increase profits, in a very down economy.
interesting post. but truly unions are as loyal to its members as the members are to them. we support the unions and participation in them as much as we do in elections, 50% or less. if i were a union i would be looking for members that show guts, got work ethic and wana work together, that does not sound much like most americans. the new american mind set, if it didnt happen to me it didnt happen. have you noticed all the cops and soldiers are no longer smith, jones, and johnson? its now gomez, rodriguez, and lopez.
interesting post. but truly unions are as loyal to its members as the members are to them. we support the unions and participation in them as much as we do in elections, 50% or less. if i were a union i would be looking for members that got work ethic and wana work together, that does not sound much like most americans. the new american mind set, if it didnt happen to me it didnt happen. have you noticed all the cops and soldiers are no longer smith, jones, and johnson? its now gomez, rodriguez, and lopez.
Democrat introduces SEIU-backed illegal alien amnesty bill
SEIU has been lobbying for illegal alien amnesty as a massive membership booster all year. In May, the Purple Shirts held a pro-illegal immigration rally from Malcolm X Park to the White House to put pressure on homeland security officials to call off workplace raids (not that Janet Napolitano needed any convincing):
“It certainly will confuse the debate a lot more, but at the end of the day what we have to understand is fixing this system will be good for American workers,” said Eliseo Medina, executive vice president of the Service Employees International Union, which is one of the major advocates for legalizing illegal immigrant workers.
Why is SEIU have workers that are Illegal Immigrants in America?
A spokesman from SEIU was on video saying the Union / SEIU had many undocumented workers from all over the world - China, Mexico, Poland, Indians etc. He even said that they had American born citizens working for them. So the Union Obama said he would "work for entire life" for are bringing in illegal immigrants for hire instead of hiring the majority American workers. How does this sound? Is Americans happy that illegal immigrants are taking Americans jobs? Is this what Van Jones meant when he said "give them the wealth" ?
If unions cannot make inroads at Walmart I can only imagine when they show up in China.
Easier than here because their working conditions are not as good as our non-unionized places. Watch it happen in the next decade.
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Originally Posted by Greatday
Union membership, in terms of members, is declining in the United States.
Unions have become mostly unnecessary
True. Our factories are disappearing and the production plants still here are automating more and more every year. But I disagree union are unnecessary (see my post #11).
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