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If he is lying about what Obama has said or not said, done or not done, then he is undermining him. Everybody is welcome to their view, just please don't lie in order to do it.
You're absolutely right about the act of lying. The fact is that some people do. That's not changing anytime soon either. Unless Obama or the current Congress have changed their policies or actions because of it, he hasn't 'undermined' a thing. It takes a lot more than talking, false or otherwise.
Better to argue the issues rather than the personalities. Post the quotes and site the inaccuracies. Now that's undermining!
It's amazing how vocal Cheney is now that he is out of "power". Seems to me there was a reason "W" put a muzzle on this grumpy old dog. 9/11 happened under his watch. So did Richard Reid (after 9/11 and tried in civilian court). One Christmas day underwear bomber happened under Obama's. No comparison.
He has spoken out against the president so much lately. I question his motives. His and his daughter Liz.
But you did not think the people who spoke out against Bush were undermining bush.
when harry Reid had said Iraq was lost before the surge, that was not undermining our president
what lies has cheney told. Just because you say he has lied and will not say or quote what he lied about does not mean he lied.
You saying he is a liar does not make him a liar.
president Obama has lied to us about many things.
For instance in the cam,paign he promised the halt care debate would be on Cspan open for the country to watch, what happened harry Reid wrote a bill with no one watching and voted before it could be read.
Republicans were vicious, rabidly vicious about Clinton.
Democrats were vicious, rabidly vicious about Bush.
Republicans are vicious, rabidly vicious about Obama.
Why anyone wants to be president is beyond me.
Cheney is making claims that are quickly proven false soon after they are made. Is he undermining the President with these lies and false accusations?
One can't judge a man by his words,...but by his ACTIONS. Where was your outrage with Jimmy Carter's "undermining" of Republican administrations. At least Cheney is not hanging with terrorist regimes like Carter did.
Your hypocricy is astounding.........
BTW, your OP would be more intelligent if it were supported by facts instead of just your opinion. Your blind support for this administration is very apparent.
He had his time in the White House. He had his time to end the war, and he didn't. He should keep his mouth shut for the next 3 to 8 years.
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What rational person would think that "Five-Deferment Dick" is a credible
source for military strategy? His ego is so over-inflated that it's painful to see...just another bombastic fool, eager to hear his own voice. Plus, he's just plain evil. A fortune earned from Halliburton is blood money. Gotta hand it to Dick...a legend in his own mind.
But you did not think the people who spoke out against Bush were undermining bush.
Are you using the poor behavior of the general public towards the Bush Administration as justification for a former Vice-President to blatantly lie about the current Administration? By that logic, if you murder someone, it's ok for me to murder someone, 'cuz you did it first?
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So citizens of this country cant question Obama or say when they think hes wrong?
Of course we can question the President, and express our opinion on whether he's right or not. But there's a vast difference between a citizen exercising their right to have and to express such opinions and a (suddenly) high-profile, former Vice-President giving lies as facts.
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