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Not so obvious. He refers to it in Dreams From My Father.
Stating that he found it WHILE IN HIGH SCHOOL. That's about 30 years ago.
Again, what some people have physical possession of at one point in their lives does not mean they will ALWAYS have possession of same at a later date. *&%^ happens.
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It casts doubt as to the actual events of Obama's birth. In 1961... an 18 year old with a newborn moving thousands of miles away from her family, to attend college. Really?
Funny, quite a few of us don't see "conspiracy". We see an independent young mother pursuing her education, returning to a place she once lived.
Can you birthers answer me one question? If some group went to all the trouble to plant a fake birth certificate in the records of the department of Hawaii and wipe out all traces of his so-called actual birth place---if they had the power to engineer a cover-up to the extend we'd have to believe happened to accept this theory---why in h-e-ll didn't they think to give the guy a different middle name? Surely any group smart enough to pull off covering up as big as you all say happened would be smart enough to give Obama an apple-pie American middle name like 'James' or 'Robert'.
It wouldn't be as hard to pull off as you imagine. All that's necessary to obtain a Hawaiian birth certificate regardless of where you were actually born is to document the fact that your parent was a Hawaiian resident for at least one year prior to your birth. http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrs200...-0017_0008.htm
Why do you care WHO babysat him? And...just because one person has come out to flaunt their relationship to the POTUS does not mean that she was the ONLY person to care for him.
To jump to such a conclusion is to completely abandon rational thought.
Rational thought leads one to conclude that no one has come forward to state, and there is no evidence whatsoever that shows, that any of Obama's mother's high school friends helper her out when she came back to Seattle to live in an apartment with her newborn.
It wouldn't be as hard to pull off as you imagine. All that's necessary to obtain a Hawaiian birth certificate regardless of where you were actually born is to document the fact that your parent was a Hawaiian resident for at least one year prior to your birth. http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrs200...-0017_0008.htm
Just a guess here...but I would presume that an out-of-state certificate would, in fact, list the child's correct state of birth...not Hawaii.
Rational thought leads one to conclude that no one has come forward to state, and there is no evidence whatsoever that shows, that any of Obama's mother's high school friends helper her out when she came back to Seattle to live in an apartment with her newborn.
And again, babysitting is completely IRRELEVANT.
To continue to pursue this line of conspiracy is absolutely pointless.
I was thinking more along the lines that any woman of any age with a newborn baby would likely need help from time to time.
I think you're trying way too hard to see something that isn't there.
And a woman of any age with a newborn baby likely needing help from time to time ... has what exactly to do with President Obama's eligibility?
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It casts doubt as to the actual events of Obama's birth. In 1961... an 18 year old with a newborn moving thousands of miles away from her family, to attend college. Really?
Well, why not throw some sexism into the argument, eh?
I think you're trying way too hard to see something that isn't there, and I guess that may be as good a definition of a birther that there is.
It wouldn't be as hard to pull off as you imagine. All that's necessary to obtain a Hawaiian birth certificate regardless of where you were actually born is to document the fact that your parent was a Hawaiian resident for at least one year prior to your birth. http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrs200...-0017_0008.htm
If it happened that way, answer my question a few posts back: why didn't they give him a more American middle name if they were going to go through all the trouble to give him a fake birth place? In the big scheme of conspiracy theories, why did the forget this little detail for the future president of the U.S.A.?
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Rational thought leads one to conclude that no one has come forward to state, and there is no evidence whatsoever that shows, that any of Obama's mother's high school friends helper her out when she came back to Seattle to live in an apartment with her newborn.
Seriously, who would expect a bunch of kids just out of high school, in their first year at college to want to baby sit for a friend when they could be out partying? Lots of people are also happy to leave all their high school classmates in the dust and start a new life without them. You are trying to read something into a totally irrelevant line of thought. How about giving some reasons why this is important in the world of birthers.
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Stating that he found it WHILE IN HIGH SCHOOL. That's about 30 years ago.
Again, what some people have physical possession of at one point in their lives does not mean they will ALWAYS have possession of same at a later date. *&%^ happens.
He seems to have had it as recently as 2006, when he would have needed a passport for his trip to Africa.
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