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Old 02-14-2010, 06:33 PM
 
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I love the use of the word "fact" in the above post. So, by your logic, the only way to strengthen the economy is to make sure everyone is equally poor? Correct?

Well, seems you and the Democratic party have something in common.
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Old 02-14-2010, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Fraser,MI
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Get rid of government completely. What do they real do for us? They seem to be on tv alot while i am at work. what do they do all day? Republicans will always say less government so lets get rid of it..!!!!!
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Old 02-14-2010, 09:02 PM
 
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What Obama should do is
follow the advice of President John F. Kennedy.
"It is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now ... Cutting taxes now is not to incur a budget deficit, but to achieve the more prosperous, expanding economy which can bring a budget surplus."
– John F. Kennedy, Nov. 20, 1962, president's news conference
"Lower rates of taxation will stimulate economic activity and so raise the levels of personal and corporate income as to yield within a few years an increased – not a reduced – flow of revenues to the federal government."
– John F. Kennedy, Jan. 17, 1963, annual budget message to the Congress, fiscal year 1964
"In today's economy, fiscal prudence and responsibility call for tax reduction even if it temporarily enlarges the federal deficit – why reducing taxes is the best way open to us to increase revenues."
– John F. Kennedy, Jan. 21, 1963, annual message to the Congress: "The Economic Report Of The President"
"It is no contradiction – the most important single thing we can do to stimulate investment in today's economy is to raise consumption by major reduction of individual income tax rates."
– John F. Kennedy, Jan. 21, 1963, annual message to the Congress: "The Economic Report Of The President"
"Our tax system still siphons out of the private economy too large a share of personal and business purchasing power and reduces the incentive for risk, investment and effort – thereby aborting our recoveries and stifling our national growth rate."
– John F. Kennedy, Jan. 24, 1963, message to Congress on tax reduction and reform, House Doc. 43, 88th Congress, 1st Session.
"A tax cut means higher family income and higher business profits and a balanced federal budget. Every taxpayer and his family will have more money left over after taxes for a new car, a new home, new conveniences, education and investment. Every businessman can keep a higher percentage of his profits in his cash register or put it to work expanding or improving his business, and as the national income grows, the federal government will ultimately end up with more revenues."
– John F. Kennedy, Sept. 18, 1963, radio and television address to the nation on tax-reduction bill
"I have asked the secretary of the treasury to report by April 1 on whether present tax laws may be stimulating in undue amounts the flow of American capital to the industrial countries abroad through special preferential treatment."
– John F. Kennedy, Feb. 6, 1961, message to Congress on gold and the balalnce of payments deficit
"In those countries where income taxes are lower than in the United States, the ability to defer the payment of U.S. tax by retaining income in the subsidiary companies provides a tax advantage for companies operating through overseas subsidiaries that is not available to companies operating solely in the United States. Many American investors properly made use of this deferral in the conduct of their foreign investment."
– John F. Kennedy, April 20, 1961, message to Congress on taxation
"Our present tax system ... exerts too heavy a drag on growth ... It reduces the financial incentives for personal effort, investment, and risk-taking ... The present tax load ... distorts economic judgments and channels an undue amount of energy into efforts to avoid tax liabilities."
– John F. Kennedy, Nov. 20, 1962, press conference
"The present tax codes ... inhibit the mobility and formation of capital, add complexities and inequities which undermine the morale of the taxpayer, and make tax avoidance rather than market factors a prime consideration in too many economic decisions."
– John F. Kennedy, Jan. 23, 1963, special message to Congress on tax reduction and reform
"In short, it is a paradoxical truth that ... the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now. The experience of a number of European countries and Japan have borne this out. This country's own experience with tax reduction in 1954 has borne this out. And the reason is that only full employment can balance the budget, and tax reduction can pave the way to that employment. The purpose of cutting taxes now is not to incur a budget deficit, but to achieve the more prosperous, expanding economy which can bring a budget surplus."
– John F. Kennedy, Nov. 20, 1962, news conference
"The largest single barrier to full employment of our manpower and resources and to a higher rate of economic growth is the unrealistically heavy drag of federal income taxes on private purchasing power, initiative and incentive."
– John F. Kennedy, Jan. 24, 1963, special message to Congress on tax reduction and reform
"Expansion and modernization of the nation's productive plant is essential to accelerate economic growth and to improve the international competitive position of American industry ... An early stimulus to business investment will promote recovery and increase employment."
– John F. Kennedy, Feb. 2, 1961, message on economic recovery
"We must start now to provide additional stimulus to the modernization of American industrial plants ... I shall propose to the Congress a new tax incentive for businesses to expand their normal investment in plant and equipment."
– John F. Kennedy, Feb. 13, 1961, National Industrial Conference Board
"A bill will be presented to the Congress for action next year. It will include an across-the-board, top-to-bottom cut in both corporate and personal income taxes. It will include long-needed tax reform that logic and equity demand ... The billions of dollars this bill will place in the hands of the consumer and our businessmen will have both immediate and permanent benefits to our economy. Every dollar released from taxation that is spent or invested will help create a new job and a new salary. And these new jobs and new salaries can create other jobs and other salaries and more customers and more growth for an expanding American economy."
– John F. Kennedy, Aug. 13, 1962, radio and television report on the state of the national economy
"This administration pledged itself last summer to an across-the-board, top-to-bottom cut in personal and corporate income taxes ... Next year's tax bill should reduce personal as well as corporate income taxes, for those in the lower brackets, who are certain to spend their additional take-home pay, and for those in the middle and upper brackets, who can thereby be encouraged to undertake additional efforts and enabled to invest more capital ... I am confident that the enactment of the right bill next year will in due course increase our gross national product by several times the amount of taxes actually cut."
– John F. Kennedy, Nov. 20, 1962, news conference
So the question really is would JFK be A Republican today?
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Old 02-14-2010, 09:14 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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How about this anyone who has an income/assets over 500,000 should not be allowed to run for national political office (that show em). Why? b/c these are the same people who can not relate to the average american struggling to pay their healthcare, housing and so forth and traditionally side with big business anyway. This hold true regardless of party
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Old 02-15-2010, 06:41 AM
 
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Most people making over $500,000 EARNED it and know what it takes to be successful. Many still relate. Some don't. I'd rather have someone that knows how to start and run a successful corporation at our helm than someone that got a fancy degree, or someone that's marginally successful at a 40-hr a week job.

If our leaders are mediocre, our country will be. If our leaders have no experience running anything, how can they run a country?

Many successful people had hard times making ends meet, but they figured it out. Wouldn't you want someone that's figured it out leading the country?
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Old 02-15-2010, 07:17 AM
 
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Unless you're rich, why support the Republicans?
Because you want to be rich?
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Old 02-15-2010, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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You have to be rich to support the democrats! Obama has been spening money like a drunken sailor!
As opposed to the fiscal frugality of Bush? lol!
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Old 02-15-2010, 09:22 AM
 
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Most conservatives liked Bush because he was very tough on our security, but couldn't stand him because he spent like a liberal. Maybe worse.

Bringing him into it doesn't prove your point, because we didn't like his policies either. Try again.
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Old 02-15-2010, 10:53 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Most conservatives liked Bush because he was very tough on our security, but couldn't stand him because he spent like a liberal. Maybe worse.
Well said.
And if Liberals are saying "Bush spent too" as a defense of Obama's policies, well... 2 wrongs do not make a right! Horrifyingly, Obama's spending will DWARF Bush's.

In response to the OP:

If you are not rich, you might vote for Republicans if you believe in your own freedom and you oppose a Gov't Nanny State. People want opportunity, not hand outs.
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Old 02-15-2010, 01:06 PM
 
Location: PA
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Because republicans and hopefully some NEW ones will remember that tax cuts for everyone is good.
If they can just stop spending the money they dont have .
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