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Old 03-07-2010, 04:00 PM
 
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The First Amendment protects a wide range of expression that many people do not like. Former U.S. Supreme Court Justice William Brennan wrote in the Court’s 1989 decision in Texas v. Johnson: “If there is a bedrock principle underlying the First Amendment, it is that government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply because it finds it offensive or disagreeable.”


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No one stopped Tucker and Fitzgerald from expressing themselves.
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Old 03-07-2010, 04:15 PM
 
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It looks like their naval career is over.
Amen.
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Old 03-07-2010, 04:17 PM
 
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No one stopped Tucker and Fitzgerald from expressing themselves.

So if the cops arrested anti-war protesters on campus, you would be OK with that? A right means you don't get arrested for exercising it. For the record, I think these guys are jackasses.
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Old 03-07-2010, 04:37 PM
 
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Default A right means you don't get arrested for exercising it.

In your example, the protesters wouldn't be arrested for exercising free speech. They would be arrested for or on suspicion of a crime. The act of protesting alone wouldn't have gotten them arrested.

The police can arrest a member of the protesting group for any reason as long as it meets the requirements of the law. They could site disorderly conduct, loitering, gathering in a group without a permit, resisting arrest, etc.
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Old 03-07-2010, 04:46 PM
 
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So if the cops arrested anti-war protesters on campus, you would be OK with that? A right means you don't get arrested for exercising it. For the record, I think these guys are jackasses.
Anti-war protests typically arise as a response to the notion of war, which is itself an act. Acts by their very nature stand to be adjudged on moral grounds. Speech or actions motivated by hate of another person or group have no motivation other than hate for who they are, independent of act. It is why these particular actions are considered especially detestable.
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Old 03-07-2010, 04:55 PM
 
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In your example, the protesters wouldn't be arrested for exercising free speech. They would be arrested for or on suspicion of a crime. The act of protesting alone wouldn't have gotten them arrested.

The police can arrest a member of the protesting group for any reason as long as it meets the requirements of the law. They could site disorderly conduct, loitering, gathering in a group without a permit, resisting arrest, etc.
You are so right, MeSoBe!
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Old 03-07-2010, 04:57 PM
 
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Anti-war protests typically arise as a response to the notion of war, which is itself an act. Acts by their very nature stand to be adjudged on moral grounds. Speech or actions motivated by hate of another person or group have no motivation other than hate for who they are, independent of act. It is why these particular actions are considered especially detestable.
Good post, sir!
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Old 03-07-2010, 05:02 PM
 
Location: nj
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So the prosecutor , school and Navy say that black people are so mentally unstable that cotton balls littered about will scar them ?
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Old 03-07-2010, 05:16 PM
 
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So the prosecutor , school and Navy say that black people are so mentally unstable that cotton balls littered about will scar them ?
Interesting comment, Jaymie.
It makes me wonder about your mental stability.
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Old 03-07-2010, 05:20 PM
 
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Interesting comment, Jaymie.
It makes me wonder about your mental stability.
I am part black , if thats what your asking . Although litterbugs are horrible I would not treat it as a hate crime.
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