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Old 03-11-2010, 09:41 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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You know how many people have been proven innocent or guilty via DNA? The accuracy of proper convictions and acquittals has skyrocketed since DNA was first used as evidence. I don't see why anyone should oppose this.
DNA testing isn't as reliable as the police would have you believe. DNA evidence can be planted, forged, etc. fter they take a sample. Seriously, just think about it: you're going to trust the police's own lab to be unbiased and reliable in testing, when they're the ones trying to put someone in jail to begin with. You really can't trust the police this way.
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Old 03-11-2010, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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Why wait until an arrest?

The FBI can sample us when they install the microchips.
Just think of the crime free utopia we will live in!!!
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Old 03-11-2010, 09:43 AM
 
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DNA testing isn't as reliable as the police would have you believe. DNA evidence can be planted, forged, etc. fter they take a sample. Seriously, just think about it: you're going to trust the police's own lab to be unbiased and reliable in testing, when they're the ones trying to put someone in jail to begin with. You really can't trust the police this way.
I would think there'd be two samples taken, one to send to an outside lab. Or you could get your DNA test done yourself beforehand and have your doctor file away the results, if you anticipate needing a comparison.
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Old 03-11-2010, 09:45 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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I don't agree with collecting DNA upon arrest. Conviction? Ok.... Upon arrest... no. What if the suspect is found innocent? Do they throw away the DNA? If they can keep DNA on people found innocent... why not collect from everyone?

Having said that, I still favor Obama over anyone I see on the conservative side of the fence.
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Old 03-11-2010, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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Seriously? Are you kidding me? Why would this all of a sudden be an issue? If you're not a criminal, why would this bother you?
Being arrested doesn't make you a criminal. Being CONVICTED of a crime makes you a criminal. You can be falsely arrested, or mistakenly arrested, and that's all that is required to get your DNA? You have no problem with that?
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Old 03-11-2010, 09:49 AM
 
Location: SE Florida
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Do you object to fingerprinting upon arrest? The only difference that I see is that DNA is more reliable.
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Old 03-11-2010, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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I don't agree with collecting DNA upon arrest. Conviction? Ok.... Upon arrest... no. What if the suspect is found innocent? Do they throw away the DNA? If they can keep DNA on people found innocent... why not collect from everyone?

Having said that, I still favor Obama over anyone I see on the conservative side of the fence.
They will keep the DNA of people who are aquitted AND of people who had the charges even dropped! That's what's wrong about this! In fact, you could have been unlawfully arrested, and they would still keep the DNA.
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Old 03-11-2010, 09:50 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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I would think there'd be two samples taken, one to send to an outside lab. Or you could get your DNA test done yourself beforehand and have your doctor file away the results, if you anticipate needing a comparison.
That wouldn't stop them from planting evidence/tampering with evidence, and unless you have inside info., you'd never be able to prove it.

Some examples that have come to light, but corruption has probably covered many more I'm sure:

Crime lab botched 27 DNA results - The Boston Globe

Top lab repeatedly botched DNA tests - chicagotribune.com
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:01 AM
 
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Jesus christ.

You get arrested, your finger prints go to a huge FBI data base. DNA, finger prints, what's the dif?

ON EDIT: Oh yeah, DNA is science, so we've got to be against that!?!
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:04 AM
 
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That wouldn't stop them from planting evidence/tampering with evidence, and unless you have inside info., you'd never be able to prove it.
Sort of like old school evidence tampering?

$145K settlement: Botched fingerprints put innocent man in jail for 17-month Rikers 'nightmare'

Gainesville Sun - Google News Archive Search

Fbi Botched Fingerprint Id In Madrid Blasts, Panel Says - Orlando Sentinel
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