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Old 03-19-2010, 01:22 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.” -Barack Obama

This quote from Obama is an ominous reminder of what he and the other extreme-left Democrats have as their goal, not just in this weekend's vote to establish socialized medicine, but in more and more votes to come.
America was founded as a country where people could determine their own fate - for better or worse. It was based on the idea that a nation could prosper more, and do better for its people, if they were left to make their own decisions and take responsibility for the results themselves, instead of relying on government to take care of them.

Now we have a President and majority Congress that no longer believes that. Their overiding goal, is to reinstate government control over the people's decisions. The vote for socialized Health Care, is just one of many such votes we can expect, where the Democrats try to take away people's choice of how to run their own lives, and place more and more of the country's activity under the "benevolent" control of government.

Though he said it just before the November elections, this idea has remained a consistent theme thoughout his presidency. The Democrats have tried hard to deny there is any central theme to their actions. But each and every one of their initiatives somehow result in bigger government, more regulations and restrictions, and greater government spending. The facts become clearer and clearer, despite their denials and evasions.

They are, indeed, trying to "fundamentally transform the United States of America". They are trying to change it from a country of individuals who determine their own fate, to a collective where people must conform to the will of a government that has no restrictions on what it can impose on them.

If we don't stop it now, we may never have another chance.
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Old 03-19-2010, 01:25 PM
 
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This quote from Obama is an ominous reminder of what he and the other extreme-left Democrats have as their goal, not just in this weekend's vote to establish socialized medicine,
I defy you to point out one solitary "socialist" item in the healthcare legislation.

One.
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Old 03-19-2010, 01:26 PM
 
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“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.” -Barack Obama
GObama!
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Old 03-19-2010, 01:30 PM
 
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I defy you to point out one solitary "socialist" item in the healthcare legislation.

One.
It is not going to pop up and just say - "Federal Government is now in control of your healthcare decisions"

It is all embedded in the legalese. You have to be wise enough to make deductions and think critically about the contents of this bill.
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Old 03-19-2010, 01:31 PM
 
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It is a shame the average american is so irresponsible today that they praise the actions of the Obama administration.

I wish the days of people turning to their own ability rather than the government during tough times would return, unfortunately, it seems that will not be the case.
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Old 03-19-2010, 01:32 PM
 
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I defy you to point out one solitary "socialist" item in the healthcare legislation.

One.
The entire freakin' bill!

But you want one....OK

The nationalization of the student Loan industry that was, for some reason, actually put in a "health" bill.

Forced purchase of a product "health insurance" with the ramifications of fines/jail for failure to comply. Well, actually, that is Marxist.

Shall I go on?
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Old 03-19-2010, 01:38 PM
 
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It is not going to pop up and just say - "Federal Government is now in control of your healthcare decisions"

It is all embedded in the legalese. You have to be wise enough to make deductions and think critically about the contents of this bill.
Put up or shut up!
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Old 03-19-2010, 01:42 PM
 
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The entire freakin' bill!

But you want one....OK

The nationalization of the student Loan industry that was, for some reason, actually put in a "health" bill.

Forced purchase of a product "health insurance" with the ramifications of fines/jail for failure to comply.

Shall I go on?
The student loan program HAS ALWAYS been a Federal program!!! These are loans guaranteed by the Federal government, the only change is that the middle man has been cut out.

Nice Try but no cigar.

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Well, actually, that is Marxist.
Well, you're certainly right about that one...

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Old 03-19-2010, 01:42 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Put up or shut up!
Poor little ovacatto really wants people to quit talking about the coming government takeover of Health Care, doesn't he?

Who can blame him? His agenda is on the verge of defeat!
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Old 03-19-2010, 01:43 PM
 
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“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.” -Barack Obama

This quote from Obama is an ominous reminder of what he and the other extreme-left Democrats have as their goal, not just in this weekend's vote to establish socialized medicine, but in more and more votes to come.
America was founded as a country where people could determine their own fate - for better or worse. It was based on the idea that a nation could prosper more, and do better for its people, if they were left to make their own decisions and take responsibility for the results themselves, instead of relying on government to take care of them.

Now we have a President and majority Congress that no longer believes that. Their overiding goal, is to reinstate government control over the people's decisions. The vote for socialized Health Care, is just one of many such votes we can expect, where the Democrats try to take away people's choice of how to run their own lives, and place more and more of the country's activity under the "benevolent" control of government.

Though he said it just before the November elections, this idea has remained a consistent theme thoughout his presidency. The Democrats have tried hard to deny there is any central theme to their actions. But each and every one of their initiatives somehow result in bigger government, more regulations and restrictions, and greater government spending. The facts become clearer and clearer, despite their denials and evasions.

They are, indeed, trying to "fundamentally transform the United States of America". They are trying to change it from a country of individuals who determine their own fate, to a collective where people must conform to the will of a government that has no restrictions on what it can impose on them.

If we don't stop it now, we may never have another chance.
Boo! Scared ya, huh? Listening to too much Beck and Limbaugh leeaves permanent damage.
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